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Right. Yet another Electronics "green hue" rating.

Apple comes in 14th.

For god's sake, why do they have to build stuff like that ? I want a "clean" image associated with this brand. Dell is 2nd. This pisses me off, even though I hate Greenpeace activists as well. Even though there may be some corruption to a certain extent, I think this source (Greenpeace) is reliable.

:mad:

Link to the Org's PDF
 
In fairness I don't want a clean image, I want a cleaner company. We are rotting this world away, and it doesn't take a huge amount of effort for Apple (or any other company for that matter) to take a few small steps to reduce the damage we are doing. I'm not even talking about radical change, just some changes in manufacturing materials and processes.

If Dell, the origin of all evil according to some, is cleaner, it shows up Apple in a pretty poor light.
 
Apple Ranked Lowest on Environmental Care

Didn't see this posted, so for those of you who haven't seen this:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5273

Apple said "we don't give commitments"

Apple may be producing beautiful products but it apparently is producing a lot of waste as well. According to environmental group Greenpeace, Apple ranks the lowest o ut of all the major tech companies when it comes to environmental issues. The worst part of it is, Greenpeace notes that while other companies have improved year after year, Apple is the only one that has not moved at all.

According to the Greepeace group, no company has received a rating of 7 or higher out of 10. Unfortunately however, Apple's rating stands at an abysmal 2.7, the lowest of all 14 companies in the ranking. Greepeace said that the reason for Apple's low score is the company's ignorance of such issues like chemical policies and waste management. According to Greenpeace:

The ranking is important because the amounts of toxic e-waste is growing every day. It often ends up dumped in the developing world. Reducing the toxic chemicals in products reduces pollution from old products and makes recycling safer, easier and cheaper. Companies with good recycling schemes help ensure that their products don't end up in the e-waste yards of Africa and Asia.

Greenpeace coordinator Zeina Alhajj told reporters that "we were surprised [Apple] were in last place again. We are hoping that by the next ranking they will be the biggest mover." Alhajj also indicated that his group met with Apple on several occasions to speak about environmental issues but the company has not responded in a satisfactory manner. "We have asked for a commitment, but Apple said 'we don't give commitments, we do things.' We haven't seen any commitments, so far," said Alhajj.

Apple was previously in a situation where it was called out for not keeping up with its manufacturing partners on employee and human rights. DailyTech previously reported that e-waste had become a big issue, enough for the United Nations to bring up the topic at a recent summit.

The only post I saw related to this was made back in August, when Apple was 4th worst. I guess everyone else but Apple is taking measures to be more environmentally friendly.

Personally, I'm a little upset with Apple. Of all the tech companies out there, you'd think they'd be one of the greenest.
 
^^And I bet it won't affect their sales because you'll still buy a Mac if you want one. ;)

I'm not concerned about their sales. I'm concerned about the environment. Not to mention everyone in this forum would rip Dell if they were last. It's okay to like a company, it's not okay to like them so much that even when they fail miserably you brush it off.

Apple charges a premium for their products. I think they should pocket a little less of that premium and be at least as environmentally friendly as DELL.
 
I'm not concerned about their sales. I'm concerned about the environment. Not to mention everyone in this forum would rip Dell if they were last. It's okay to like a company, it's not okay to like them so much that even when they fail miserably you brush it off.

Apple charges a premium for their products. I think they should pocket a little less of that premium and be at least as environmentally friendly as DELL.

Right. It won't be much fun to use a Mac if you have to wear a gas mask while you do it.

I think Apple computers are well-made and reliable. That doesn't mean that Apple doesn't have an obligation to make them as environmentally-friendly as possible as well.
 
They probably are pissed, but it doesn't excuse Apples failure.

I like Apple products, but they need to get their house in order - as we all do. I could say that about hundreds of companies btw.

One thing I do like is the relatively low level of power consumption of Apple laptops. Get the manufacturing processes right and they can be clean to produce as well.
 
Greenpeace must be pissed they announced this in the same week the UK announced plans to buy more Nuclear subs. :D

*Swears* Environmentalists...

So you think nuclear subs are a good thing then?

Environmentalists simply care about preserving the world. It's as simple as that. You might note that being in the UK, if current global warming levels continue, the place where you live might well be underwater in a hundred years.

Apple (and every company, for that matter) needs to focus on making sustainable products. If not...well, there won't be any one to use those products at some point. It's as simple as that. Humans cannot continue to indefinitely use the planet as a dumping ground and ignore the consequences.
 
Innovation...what's that?

Apple marshalls it's brilliance to produce the greenest computer on the planet!

I be that would boost sales a bit, especially with large purchasing groups such as schools.

And the ad campaign would be great.

And it's the right thing to do.
 
Isn't Greenpeace anti-nuclear power?

Just curious, but what other alternative is there to nuclear power in the first place?

Burning Coal, Oil and Gas... But wait... they don't like that either.

Oh, there is wind. But then people say thats an eye sore, theres water, but that kills the cute little beavers and what not...

You might note that being in the UK, if current global warming levels continue, the place where you live might well be underwater in a hundred years.

Maybe. I however, will already be underground, so a bit of moisture will not bother me.

:)
 
So you think nuclear subs are a good thing then?

Environmentalists simply care about preserving the world. It's as simple as that. You might note that being in the UK, if current global warming levels continue, the place where you live might well be underwater in a hundred years.

Apple (and every company, for that matter) needs to focus on making sustainable products. If not...well, there won't be any one to use those products at some point. It's as simple as that. Humans cannot continue to indefinitely use the planet as a dumping ground and ignore the consequences.

That's exactly why we need more of the subs!
 
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