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starcrossed

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May 3, 2003
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San Antonio,TX
My iMac G4 has now started acting up big time, and it seems like the Hard Drive will need to be replaced since in Disk Utility the SMART status states failing. I've managed to boot into it for just a few minutes to quickly back up my files before I got the beachball, which I successfully did, but before I take my iMac to get fixed, is there any way to wipe the disk clean before I do so. I write a lot scripts, and jot down ideas in the computer, and I the thought that someone might get access to them worries me a bit. I tried doing a clean install of MacOS X but it won't even recognize the hard drive to install it on. Also, if I do infact still have my computer covered through AppleCare, would Apple take care of the cost to have it replace for free, or will I have to pay for it, or still have to pay a deductible or such? Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
 
starcrossed said:
My iMac G4 has now started acting up big time, and it seems like the Hard Drive will need to be replaced since in Disk Utility the SMART status states failing. I've managed to boot into it for just a few minutes to quickly back up my files before I got the beachball, which I successfully did, but before I take my iMac to get fixed, is there any way to wipe the disk clean before I do so. I write a lot scripts, and jot down ideas in the computer, and I the thought that someone might get access to them worries me a bit. I tried doing a clean install of MacOS X but it won't even recognize the hard drive to install it on. Also, if I do infact still have my computer covered through AppleCare, would Apple take care of the cost to have it replace for free, or will I have to pay for it, or still have to pay a deductible or such? Any advice would greatly be appreciated.

That's impossible! Apple would never use hard drives that fail after 2 years! You need to go to a re-education camp.

Sarcasm aside, you can't erase the disk if the disk won't stay mounted long enough to erase. And even if you did, you're best off zeroing the disk (which you CERTAINLY can't do).

You'll have to work it out with your local Apple store, but if you're sending it back to Apple, your ONLY alternative is to replace the drive yourself.
 
Next question, is it even possible for them to look into the contents of the hard drive without your account password and such, and two does anyone know if since CompUsa is an authorized apple repair center, if I could just take it there and it will be covered under AppleCare, since I don't have an AppleStore in my town.
 
Yeah, there is no way I want to open up the iMac and replace the drive myself, if it was a PowerMac maybe, but the iMac G4 would be a pain. I tried boot from the install CD and running disk utility but unfortantly, it won't allow me to erase the disk and zero the data.
 
starcrossed said:
Next question, is it even possible for them to look into the contents of the hard drive without your account password and such, and two does anyone know if since CompUsa is an authorized apple repair center, if I could just take it there and it will be covered under AppleCare, since I don't have an AppleStore in my town.

I don't know about the compUSA thing, but if you're not using filevault, permissions mean nothing if someone physically has your hard drive.

For those who don't know about this:
1. mount the HD on another Mac (and boot off the normal HD)
2. get info on the drive and click "ignore permissions on this volume"
 
So simply when the hard drive is failing and the computer is acting like that, there is no other way around fixing it, other than just having the hard drive replaced, correct? I just want to make sure when I hand over the computer to get fixed, I don't look like an idiot cause I didn't do something first, or so on, and that its absolutly necessary for a Apple tech to take a look at.
 
starcrossed said:
there is no other way around fixing it, other than just having the hard drive replaced, correct?

Well, there are data recovery and hard drive fixing places. However, Apple doesn't offer these services so you'd still have to void Applecare to do it.

And by the way, 99% of the time the cost for repair is much higher than the cost of the same drive new.

[edit: and by the way, I wouldn't worry about them discovering all your porn and warez.. er uhm script source code and personal files .. They probably have strict policies about that. They might, however, try to boot the device off the hard drive, so disable it if you can.]
 
Well, if they have to replace it, it is certaintly fine for me since I've already backed up my valuable data. My iMac has only been able to successfully boot into the OS, only after hours of being shut down, so I guess I try again later tonight to see if I can get in for a mere few minutes to quickly trash what I can. One last thought, is it possible to delete stuff from the iMac using it in FW Disk Mode through my Powerbook. The iMac is able to start up in FW mode, becuase I see the FW symbol on the screen, but I don't have a 6pin to 6pin cable to test it out. I was just wondering so if it should work, they i'll run out and buy one, if not then I won't.
 
starcrossed said:
Well, if they have to replace it, it is certaintly fine for me since I've already backed up my valuable data. My iMac has only been able to successfully boot into the OS, only after hours of being shut down, so I guess I try again later tonight to see if I can get in for a mere few minutes to quickly trash what I can. One last thought, is it possible to delete stuff from the iMac using it in FW Disk Mode through my Powerbook. The iMac is able to start up in FW mode, becuase I see the FW symbol on the screen, but I don't have a 6pin to 6pin cable to test it out. I was just wondering so if it should work, they i'll run out and buy one, if not then I won't.

Firewire target disk mode DOES boot the computer, in addition to the fact that the data is not very accessible. It'd probably freeze the computer you hooked it up to when the iMac crashes. At that point you can probably simply unplug the cable and your powerbook will unfreeze.
 
Well thanks again everyone for your valuable replies. This is one of the main reasons, besides rumors and news, that I frequently enjoy visiting this site. I guess i've give Apple a call and see whether I have to send them the iMac or if there is a place in my city like CompUSA, that they would let me have it fixed at. Take care.
 
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