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Has it been shown how to swap the battery pack? Do you have to shut off the device intra-swap?
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How do you know? It seems like Apple is set on the current M2 chips for the 1st gen.
At $3.5k the end users will want more than 2hrs battery life.
Apple cannot proclaim the M3 chip half a year before 2024.
It would hurt sales of any M2 Mac or iPad Pro.
I have a feeling there will be good solutions for this by the time the device ships. I can think of one that is so obvious.
I bet you just leave the battery plugged in and hot add any USB-C power source to the battery. So just plug in any 3ed party USB-C out battery (bet Apple offers then too) or any AC/adaptor when you get the low battery warning and keep on VRing.
They didn't have to announce anything about the chips if they were worried about it hurting sales of other products. Likewise they didn't have to say anything about battery life, and certainly they wouldn't announce it being 2 hours if it's actually going to be more than that when it ships.
This thing will ship with an M2 and R1 chip with roughly 2 hours battery life.
I keep seeing it being stated that the M3 chip will be some big leap in battery life. It maybe more efficient so you can eke out some more minutes but no way is it going to add hours to the battery.
Apple has done this before with the 2006 MBP 15".
They promised a certain Intel chip but delivered a better one upon release.
I recall an instance with a later Mac mini with a silent Intel chip bump without increasing price.
Likely Intel ran out of that chip SKU and offered a better chip to Apple at no additional cost.
Apple did not want to Osborne that Mac mini by having customers cherry picking the faster chip that was being shipped at "random".
Good call of Apple to disclose the M2 and battery life then delighting buyers next year with news of M3 and bettery battery life.
As awesome as it would be, I highly doubt Apple is going to do this. All of their integration work has been with M2 processors, all the marketing materials have M2 processors, and the developers will be building apps with M2-level performance as the expectation. Don't get me wrong - I want them to do this, and it would be amazing, but I think what was announced will be what it ships with UNLESS there is a significant delay to the shipping time e.g. it's delayed until ~June but the consolation package is it now comes with M3.
Saving the 3nm process for later also gives them a huge Gen. 2 feature to entice those who held out on Gen. 1 right off of the bat.
Entirely different situation in 2006.
Intel was lagging with Pentium 4. They launched Core Duo as a stopgap. Core 2 Duo literally came six months later and was on all public roadmaps. Everybody knew C2D was coming in mid-2006. Nobody wanted 32-bit Core Duo in Q1'06. While Steve Jobs did a great presentation on Core Duo MBP, the chip was obsolete on day one. So yes, Intel gave Apple a free speed bump on MBP. But it was obvious why.
It makes zero sense for Apple to tell developers to target M2 GPU features and performance and then suddenly put in an M3.
MagSafe pad that accommodates the current Apple MagSafe battery pack. The pad itself would be sleek and chargeable with a small amount of battery life — just enough to allow the user to swap out the MagSafe battery without interruption.
I’m assuming Apple will have this available at launch. If they don’t — another company will, and I think every Vision Pro user would buy it.
Read/see my post #9. You don't have to swap batteries or unplug the cable. Just like ALL over Apple devices (except the crazy a$$ Mouse) you can plug in power and keep working. The only difference is the battery is external ONLY to reduce weight. MKBHD even confirmed you just plug into the USB-C to keep it going.
Sure, but how does that help in the scenario that I cannot or do t want to be tethered to a cable?
The battery is external so and will be for probably at least 3 to 5 generations. So I guess you just have to wait about 5 years.
That would be quite limiting and I have to believe Apple will come up with some solution…
Back in the early/mid I remember having Compaq laptops that had a “standby” button (if I recall a small internal battery) that you’d press to swap the battery. You had like 30 sec or so but it worked pretty well…
Are you not understanding what I'm saying? You just plug in another battery to the USB-C port before the main battery dies and you keep going. There is NO standby or waiting or power off. It just keeps working the SAME as when you plug in your iPhone to power as its battery is dying. What is it you want it to do? I mean I'd love a 12 hour 1 oz internal battery but that is not the reality. You will have to buy and carry a USB-C battery if you need more than 2 hours. Here is quick look on Amazon and here is a 100W (likely plenty of power) and 20,000mAh energy. So I bet with this and the included battery you could have over 5 hours uninterrupted. If this it not enough then you will need to buy a bigger battery or more than one extra.
Is it ideal having to carry an extra battery? NO, BUT it will keep you going, uninterrupted for as long as you want provided you bring enough battery backup.
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had a brainfart on this oneAre you not understanding what I'm saying? You just plug in another battery to the USB-C port before the main battery dies and you keep going. There is NO standby or waiting or power off. It just keeps working the SAME as when you plug in your iPhone to power as its battery is dying. What is it you want it to do? I mean I'd love a 12 hour 1 oz internal battery but that is not the reality. You will have to buy and carry a USB-C battery if you need more than 2 hours. Here is quick look on Amazon and here is a 100W (likely plenty of power) and 20,000mAh energy. So I bet with this and the included battery you could have over 5 hours uninterrupted. If this it not enough then you will need to buy a bigger battery or more than one extra.
Is it ideal having to carry an extra battery? NO, BUT it will keep you going, uninterrupted for as long as you want provided you bring enough battery backup.
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Is it obvious? How do we know for sure there isn’t a small battery or capacitor or something to keep it on between battery switches? There’s a lot of specifics we don’t know yet know about the headset.
Both sides accepting battery connection might be a possibility, but it seems weird if you were forced to switch sides each time you switch batteries. Someone might prefer it on a particular side.
If I had to bet, I’d probably bet this is how it is. But I hope not because that means if you want to stay mobile, half the time you’ll have to have two batteries in one pocket. Ideally the headset has a tiny bit of juice to keep it on between battery swaps.
And I’m sure Apple will sell the extra proprietary battery/cable, but it’d be nice if Apple opened it up for third parties to use the propietary connector like they do with Lightning. (Btw I understand why the battery and headset can’t just be a regular usbc connectors; they have to be more secure as you move around.)
Read my post and see how it works. It works just like any other Apple or Android device. Read post #20 as to how it works. You simply plug in power (AC adaptor or Battery) to the USB-C (see post #9 for picture) before the battery completely dies and the Vision Pro will stay powered up (just like your iPhone does) as it recharges the battery.
There are literally 1000's of different USB-C batteries available to buy today as extra uninterrupted power for your Vision Pros.
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