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Blue Velvet

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I'm a bit old-skool when it comes to Star Trek but I kinda remember Bones waving various devices around on the bodies of injured Enterprise crew members to enable miraculous and almost instantaneous healing...


Scientists have found how the body harnesses the power of electricity to heal cuts and grazes — an effect they manipulated to speed up wound healing dramatically.


No, it's not April the 1st... this could be a genuine breakthrough in medicine.



In preliminary lab tests, researchers showed that by controlling the weak electrical fields that arise naturally at wound sites, they could direct cells to either close or open up a wound at the flick of a switch. By making the cells move faster, they were able to speed up wound healing by 50%...

...The role of electricity in wound healing has received scant attention from the scientific community since the German physiologist Emil Du Bois-Reymond cut his arm and measured the electrical field across the wound in the mid-1800s. But in the journal Nature today, an international team of scientists led by Aberdeen University not only confirms the effect but also unravels the genetic machinery behind it.

Using sheets of skin in dishes, Min Zhao and Colin McCaig show that electricity flows from the edges of a wound as soon as an incision is made. The current is triggered by positively charged sodium ions coursing through the tissue in one direction and an opposing rush of negatively charged chloride ions, together creating a voltage across the wound about 15 times weaker than an AA battery.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,1830986,00.html
 
Wow, it really is incredible what they can do nowadays. I especially find it amazing when things seen in Star Trek actually start to move into the realm of reality out of that of science fiction.
 
One of the things I love about going to the chiropractor is the electrical stimulation/massage. For those that aren't aware, two pairs of electrodes are attached to the skin (over the troubled area; for me, the lower back) and a light electrical current is run between each pair, thereby massaging and soothing the muscles. I come very close to falling asleep each time I go....
 
What the hell is '15 times weaker' supposed to mean? What level of strength above and beyond a AA battery are we coming down from? Do they mean 1/15th of the power of a AA? :rolleyes:
 
someguy said:
What the hell is '15 times weaker' supposed to mean? What level of strength above and beyond a AA battery are we coming down from? Do they mean 1/15th of the power of a AA? :rolleyes:


I thought that was pretty clear... of course, I await your peer-reviewed paper in Nature to clarify and further this research.
 
Blue Velvet said:
I thought that was pretty clear... of course, I await your peer-reviewed paper in Nature to clarify and further this research.
Lovin' the sarcasm. :rolleyes:

My point was to question whether the phrase '15 times weaker' makes any sense or not. Whether or not you understood what they meant is besides the point. How you do put '15 times weaker' in it's stated form into an equation? (Not saying it can't be done, but how do you do it?)
 
If an AA battery's voltage = 1, then 15x weaker would be 1/15 the voltage of an AA battery... to me at least.
 
yellow said:
If an AA battery's voltage = 1, then 15x weaker would be 1/15 the voltage of an AA battery... to me at least.

That was the impression I also got...


As for the whole electrical healing thing, sounds great. I wonder how far they can take it.
 
someguy said:
My point was to question whether the phrase '15 times weaker' makes any sense or not...

You're criticising the accuracy of a small piece in a broadsheet written for a general audience? Talk about pedantry... I didn't link or quote from the paper itself nor the article in Nature where I would expect a greater precision of language.

Can't see the wood for the trees, methinks.
 
Lau said:
As for the whole electrical healing thing, sounds great. I wonder how far they can take it.

Indeed.. I wonder about the side effects as well.

Frankly, if this proved to be fruitful at all, I suspect the military would be the first to jump on this for development of battlefront triage. Imagine the implications to a soldier's survivability chances if this proves to be a real application??
 
Blue Velvet said:
You're criticising the accuracy of a small piece in a broadsheet written for a general audience? Talk about pedantry... I didn't link or quote from the paper itself nor the article in Nature where I would expect a greater precision of language.

Can't see the wood for the trees, methinks.
Forgive me, oh great BV, for wanting something I was unsure of clarified for me so that I could understand the article a little better. :rolleyes:

As for the article, I really hope this will help us find cures to that which is considered 'uncurable' today. :)
 
someguy said:
Forgive me, oh great BV, for wanting something I was unsure of clarified for me so that I could understand the article a little better. :rolleyes:

Perhaps if you couched your initial query and subsequent posts in terms that didn't involve the prolific use of roll-eyed sarcastic smilies, then maybe people would approach them a little differently.

As for the 'great' comment... not necessary at all. You're forgiven. ;)
 
Blue Velvet said:
Perhaps if you couched your initial query and subsequent posts in terms that didn't involve the prolific use of roll-eyed sarcastic smilies, then maybe people would approach them a little differently.
You're probably right... :rolleyes:

JK. :D

Blue Velvet said:
As for the 'great' comment... not necessary at all. You're forgiven. ;)
It was necessary, IMO, because that is how you had come off to me. Aside from how I choose to express my thoughts, I feel as though you think that I shouldn't be able to say "hey, that doesn't make sense", yet you are free to get at me about saying that (which, IMO, is just as OT and unnecessary).
 
Benjamin said:
well hes trying to say jigowatts (BTTF script spelling) which is the references from BTTF.

I think he meant Gigawatts.

You obviously haven't seen "Back to the Future" often enough... That's the whole point of the Delorean trying to connect to thunder strike ! Talk about the power of electricity... (or was it the power of love ?).

A. :D

Additional explanation:

Doc Brown: 1.21 GIGAWATTS!?! 1.21 gigawatts! Great Scott!!!
Marty: Wait.. what the hell is a gigawatt?!
Note: Doc Brown pronounces the term "jigga-watt".

A. :D
 
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