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I’ve a 15 pro max black and noticed scratches which can be seen under light at a certain angle in the area around the back cameras

Is this to be expected? I’ve tried to be super careful with what I place the phone on and have a mous case on

Granted I probably have OCD but how do you prevent this from happening? I carry it in a phone pouch when in my bag for example. The phone is in the Mous case and then the pouch when in the bar

I have AppleCare+ but not sure if it’s worthwhile to replace the back cover (if they even cover it under accidental damage)
 
Applecare plus does not cover cosmetic damages such as a scratch on a device. Is it on the actual glass lens or surrounding? If it does not effect functionality then i would think its fine. Sure its just a minor annoyance but i would just enjoy.
 
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Applecare plus does not cover cosmetic damages such as a scratch on a device. Is it on the actual glass lens or surrounding? If it does not effect functionality then i would think its fine. Sure its just a minor annoyance but i would just enjoy.
What classifies as cosmetic vs accidental? Surely if I accidentally scratch it, that’s accidental damage?
 
Applecare plus does not cover cosmetic damages such as a scratch on a device. Is it on the actual glass lens or surrounding? If it does not effect functionality then i would think its fine. Sure its just a minor annoyance but i would just enjoy.
What classifies as cosmetic vs accidental? Surely if I accidentally scratch it, that’s accidental damage? Or is it
You make it sound like they are very minor. Post a pic if you can?
I only have the one phone unfortunately but they can only been seen under light at a certain angle
 
It’s a phone, use it and don’t worry about it, because it will get scratched again. Also, why are you looking at the back of the phone at a certain angle, under direct light? Doesn’t seem that’s a normal use case.

It would help if you can provide some pictures. Good luck!
 
What classifies as cosmetic vs accidental? Surely if I accidentally scratch it, that’s accidental damage?
Even if you accidentally scratched it, its still considered cosmetic regardless. Its still functional is it not? If that scratch causes the phone to not function then yes apple would replace that as your phone isn’t working.
 
Apple very clearly defines cosmetic damage in their AppleCare+ TOS as damage that does not affect the functionality of the device. This is cosmetic. Best way to prevent such damage is a case and camera covers. My screen protector came with camera covers for my 15 Pro and it'll keep the phone in brand new condition until I sell it in a few years.
 
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OCD is a debilitating condition. You probably don’t have that. These devices are designed with materials and finishes that degrade aesthetically to foster users’ preference for “new” devices to prompt frequent upgrades and make used products less desirable. You have mild new-tech anxiety that can be treated by staying a year or more behind the upgrade cycle and buying second-hand pre-scuffed tech.
 
What classifies as cosmetic vs accidental? Surely if I accidentally scratch it, that’s accidental damage? Or is it

I only have the one phone unfortunately but they can only been seen under light at a certain angle
To me, if you have to go out of your way to look for it, its probably a non-issue. At the end of the day, we all want perfect phones but the reality is they don't exist. You can drive yourself crazy buying and returning (if your still in your 14 day window) but that can lead to trading one issue in for two. You will likely get more blemishes/scratches with further use, so its probably best just to enjoy it and use it for what it is and not worry about the small stuff. Of course the first mark stings the most.
 
Always get a kick of those who think they have OCD because they see small scartches under a certain light while tilting the phone. No, thats more anal retentive than OCD.

I have OCD and have had it since a small child. Took medication for it for a decade +

Now let's say you see those scratches, and you cannot focus for days, even weeks. You lose sleep, stop eating because of those scratches. That is OCD.
 
If you think you have OCD, which you probably don’t, stick your phone into an Otterbox or similar case, apply a screen protector then use a lens protector and be done with it.

The price I pay for having a perfect phone is barely ever being able to see it because it’s under so much protection.
 
I’ve a 15 pro max black and noticed scratches which can be seen under light at a certain angle in the area around the back cameras

Is this to be expected? I’ve tried to be super careful with what I place the phone on and have a mous case on

Granted I probably have OCD but how do you prevent this from happening? I carry it in a phone pouch when in my bag for example. The phone is in the Mous case and then the pouch when in the bar

I have AppleCare+ but not sure if it’s worthwhile to replace the back cover (if they even cover it under accidental damage)

Take it from somebody that has real OCD - you do not have OCD. Likewise with most people here that say they do lol.
 
I quit obsessing over minor scratches or imperfections. I've even stopped using screen protectors on certain devices. Why? because i'm just obsessing over the cosmetic conditions for the future owner who might not give a damn about bumps and scratches.

Now do I put a case and screen protector on my phones? Yes but that's only if the phone is not in a wallet case. If the phone slips out of my hands chances are something is going to break on the phone and that's an expensive repair. When it comes to my iPad's, no screen protectors but I do use a case with a sleep/wake feature, just for convenience.
 
I’ve a 15 pro max black and noticed scratches which can be seen under light at a certain angle in the area around the back cameras

Is this to be expected?
Put simply, yes.

Consumer products are designed with both function and form/aesthetics marketability. For example, while the iPhone is a multi-tool that aids in communication, entertainment, knowledge, and more, its physical design includes features, such as textures and color options, that may not be the most durable or functionally useful but are fashionably attractive.

There’s nothing wrong with striving to have a pristine iPhone (or other possession) because it makes us feel accomplished, succeeding in carefulness. However, it’s best to assess the iPhone primarily as a tool (unless you feel you have disposable finances).

With that said, this is also valid:
I quit obsessing over minor scratches or imperfections. I've even stopped using screen protectors on certain devices. Why? because i'm just obsessing over the cosmetic conditions for the future owner who might not give a damn about bumps and scratches.

Ultimately:


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Take it from somebody that has real OCD - you do not have OCD. Likewise with most people here that say they do lol.
I have OCD and have had it since a small child. Took medication for it for a decade +

Now let's say you see those scratches, and you cannot focus for days, even weeks. You lose sleep, stop eating because of those scratches. That is OCD.
That is not OCD, it’s more like:


Regarding actual OCD, AI assembled a fair explanation:

Intolerance of uncertainty is a key cognitive construct in the maintenance of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) symptoms. Those with OCD who have elevated intolerance of uncertainty have difficulty managing the feeling of not knowing “for sure” whether a feared outcome may occur. Doubt is a core component of OCD and must be addressed explicitly in treatment. It’s important to challenge the need for certainty and learn to tolerate uncertainty. In a new study, researchers discovered that those with OCD were more cautious in their decisions, took longer to make choices, and yet were less successful in their outcomes compared to healthy participants.

For example, until a few years ago, every time I would leave home, I’d lock the door, tried to open it (to check if it was indeed locked), then walk a few feet away and think “Did I really lock the door?” I would repeat the process upwards of a dozen times.

Related: OCPD
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder (OCPD) is a chronic condition in which a person demonstrates an excessive focus on details, order and rules, and the need to achieve a perfect outcome, often in a way that interferes with daily life. People with this personality disorder can be stubborn, insisting that things must be done their way. The desire for order, perfection, productivity, and control can impede their ability to finish tasks, collaborate with other people, and treat social activities or hobbies as purely recreational. In addition to demanding that others follow certain rules or meet high standards, people with OCPD can be severely self-critical.
In my case, an example behavior is when a room has multiple light switches, I feel a need (i.e., obsession) to have all of the switches in the down position when the lights are off.
 
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Put simply, yes.

Consumer products are designed with both function and form/aesthetics marketability. For example, while the iPhone is a multi-tool that aids in communication, entertainment, knowledge, and more, its physical design includes features, such as textures and color options, that may not be the most durable or functionally useful but are fashionably attractive.

There’s nothing wrong with striving to have a pristine iPhone (or other possession) because it makes us feel accomplished, succeeding in carefulness. However, it’s best to assess the iPhone primarily as a tool (unless you feel you have disposable finances),

With that said, this is also valid:


Ultimately:


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That is not OCD, it’s more like:


Regarding actual OCD, AI assembled a fair explanation:

Intolerance of uncertainty is a key cognitive construct in the maintenance of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) symptoms. Those with OCD who have elevated intolerance of uncertainty have difficulty managing the feeling of not knowing “for sure” whether a feared outcome may occur. Doubt is a core component of OCD and must be addressed explicitly in treatment. It’s important to challenge the need for certainty and learn to tolerate uncertainty. In a new study, researchers discovered that those with OCD were more cautious in their decisions, took longer to make choices, and yet were less successful in their outcomes compared to healthy participants.

For example, until a few years ago, every time I would leave home, I’d lock the door, tried to open it (to check if it was indeed locked), then walk a few feet away and think “Did I really lock the door?” Then, I would repeat the process upwards of a dozen times.

Related: OCPD

In my case, an example behavior is when a room has multiple light switches, I feel a need (i.e., obsession) to have all of the switches in the down position when the lights are off.
Lol I cannot tell you how many times Ive locked the front door to check. Drive 25 feet, drive back. Check. Drive to school 25 miles away, drive back, check, miss my first class. Was held back in 3rd grade until I was diagnosed and took meds until high school.
 
This post is absolutely not directed at any particular folks, but why does it seem that a high percentage of people I see online have OCD or claim to have OCD?
 
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This post is absolutely not directed at any particular folks, but why does it seem that a high percentage of people I see online have OCD or claim to have OCD?
I would say that it's a reason (or excuse) for the claim. Most people without OCD see this type of thing as 'normal wear and tear'. And that is expected and not anything to go posting threads about.
 
This post is absolutely not directed at any particular folks, but why does it seem that a high percentage of people I see online have OCD or claim to have OCD?
It’s seemingly two fold.

Humans are not as capable of complex thought, critical thinking as we’d like to believe:


This also applies to language.

Additionally, as somewhat noted by @eyoungren , it’s in our nature to have resolve/support, even if it requires generating explanations that are based on few to no facts (e.g., conspiracy theories, religion).

In other words, most people oversimplify and create inaccurate associations/connections.
 
Put simply, yes.

Consumer products are designed with both function and form/aesthetics marketability. For example, while the iPhone is a multi-tool that aids in communication, entertainment, knowledge, and more, its physical design includes features, such as textures and color options, that may not be the most durable or functionally useful but are fashionably attractive.

There’s nothing wrong with striving to have a pristine iPhone (or other possession) because it makes us feel accomplished, succeeding in carefulness. However, it’s best to assess the iPhone primarily as a tool (unless you feel you have disposable finances).

With that said, this is also valid:


Ultimately:


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That is not OCD, it’s more like:


Regarding actual OCD, AI assembled a fair explanation:

Intolerance of uncertainty is a key cognitive construct in the maintenance of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) symptoms. Those with OCD who have elevated intolerance of uncertainty have difficulty managing the feeling of not knowing “for sure” whether a feared outcome may occur. Doubt is a core component of OCD and must be addressed explicitly in treatment. It’s important to challenge the need for certainty and learn to tolerate uncertainty. In a new study, researchers discovered that those with OCD were more cautious in their decisions, took longer to make choices, and yet were less successful in their outcomes compared to healthy participants.

For example, until a few years ago, every time I would leave home, I’d lock the door, tried to open it (to check if it was indeed locked), then walk a few feet away and think “Did I really lock the door?” I would repeat the process upwards of a dozen times.

Related: OCPD

In my case, an example behavior is when a room has multiple light switches, I feel a need (i.e., obsession) to have all of the switches in the down position when the lights are off.
This is a very interesting post.. thank you
 
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