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woooooo spiderman grip! :eek:
 
No not really.
But your still a shister.

And I am excited because sport shooting is my chosen hobby and the HK P30's predocessor the P2000 was a tad small for me.
So eat it.
 
Yes it was broad and ignorant, but it has a hint of truth to it for a lot of people living there.

Shooting for sport is fine as long as you don't go out and buy a fully automatic machine gun. Small hand gun will do.;)
 
Yes it was broad and ignorant, but it has a hint of truth to it for a lot of people living there.

Shooting for sport is fine as long as you don't go out and buy a fully automatic machine gun. Small hand gun will do.;)

Machine guns are illegal in the US without a class III permit which are impossible to get unless you are a cop or a governement agent.
 
Whether you agree or not, it's an interesting lesson in history.

Something to think about:

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953,
about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total
of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
rounded up and exterminated.

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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million
political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
xterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million
'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
because of gun control: 56 million.
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It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by
new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own
government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million
dollars.

The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
percent Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent. Australia-wide,
armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria
alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note, that while
the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and
criminals still possess their guns!) While figures over the previous 25
years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has
changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now
are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic
increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian
politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased,
after such monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully
ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the
other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear our
president,governors or other politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes,
gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note.....before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor
of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.

;)
 
And into PRSI in 5...4...3...2...1

Although it's not like we haven't had the "guns are bad" "no they're not" "yes they are" discussion enough lately. I suggest for anyone new to PRSI, and tempted to make a comment not related to your opinion of the firearm in question, you read through the previous half-dozen gun threads and see if you really have anything new to say...
 
my position is guns are here to stay, statistics show taking them away(or stricter control) from law abiding citizens is good for criminals, and bad for citizens.
Harsher punishment.....maybe - But more control, definitely not.

Anywho, sorry if I went off topic I don't wantt o get into that debate.

That gun is pretty sweet, I might have to pick it up.


Just recently sold my Browning Hi-Power Special Edition .40
(hard chrome, black rubber grips, and a gold trigger)
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I really want a CZ 9mm.
I have heard such mixed reviews that I am omewhat scared to take the plunge.
 
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