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sammyman

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I was wondering if a person had tiger, could they install it onto a laptop and a desktop?
 
sammyman said:
I was wondering if a person had tiger, could they install it onto a laptop and a desktop?

Well you technically *can*, but you're not supposed to, unless you purchased the Family Pack ;)
 
yellow said:
It's illegal, end of story. All winks aside.

Well I did indicate that he wasn't supposed to, ie it's illegal.

<pedantic mode>

I also answered his question correctly: 'could one'?
Answer is : yes, one can (technically), but one isn't allowed to :rolleyes:

</pedantic mode>

I'll give sammyman the benefit of the doubt, and treat him as a responsible adult: afford him all the information and leave it up to him to make the decision that best suits his conscience...

Winks [were supposed to] indicate that the Family Pack is a good idea...
 
The single-copy license can be found here. In particular,
This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time.
The family pack version, found here, says this instead:
This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on up to a maximum of five (5) Apple-labeled computers at a time as long as those computers are located in the same household and used by persons who occupy that same household. By "household" we mean a person or persons who share the same housing unit such as a home, apartment, mobile home or condominium, but shall also extend to student members who are primary residents of that household but residing at a separate on-campus location. This license does not extend to business or commercial users.
 
Was it always like this? I only need it for one machine, but I thought that the license was for one desktop computer and one laptop computer.

...Now that I think about I believe that that license was for Microsoft Office, but for some reason I thought that Apple had a similar policy before, I might be wrong though.
 
MacUser1 said:
Was it always like this? I only need it for one machine, but I thought that the license was for one desktop computer and one laptop computer.

...Now that I think about I believe that that license was for Microsoft Office, but for some reason I thought that Apple had a similar policy before, I might be wrong though.
And Adobe (and probably more) but not Apple, has always allowed this, given that you are the main (or only) user on both machines and only use one of the time...
 
If you got 2 copies at the EDU discount for $70 each, that would be $140. That's less than the $200 for the 5 license, however, if you were going to do that you could probably get the discount on the 5 pack and get it for $140.
 
There should be a desktop/laptop license version, no question.
I think more people than Apple think have this combo. I know I have!
I only bought 1 copy of Tiger, but received 2 copies in the post! Now I have no idea what to do!
 
In the past, Apple allowed two copies of AppleWorks to be installed for a single person (one on a desktop system, one on a portable system), but the latest AppleWorks 6 license does not permit that.

I suppose Apple chose 5 as the size for a Family Pack based on a typical family (mom, dad, 2 or 3 kids), but of course that suits only one type of situation. For a household with 2 Macs, the Family Pack is not a huge savings. For a household with 6 Macs, it's downright annoying.

Currently, it works out to
1 license: $129(1-pack)
2 licenses: $199(5-pack), or $100/license
3 licenses: $199(5-pack), or $66/license
4 licenses: $199(5-pack), or $50/license
5 licenses: $199(5-pack), or $40/license
6 licenses: $199(5-pack)+$129(1-pack)=$328, or $55/license
7 licenses: $199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)=$398, or $57/license
8 licenses: $199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)=$398, or $50/license
9 licenses: $199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)=$398, or $44/license
10 licenses: $199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)=$398, or $40/license
11 licenses: $199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)+$129(1-pack)=$527, or $48/license
12 licenses: $199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)=$597, or $50/license
13 licenses: $199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)=$597, or $46/license
14 licenses: $199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)=$597, or $43/license
15 licenses: $199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)+$199(5-pack)=$597, or $40/license
etc.

Of course if you and your spouse have 13 kids, each with their own Mac, you've probably got other things to worry about!

I wish Apple would license it as follows: first copy at full price ($129), subsequent copies in the same household, or for the same person on other personal Macs, at a lower price (say $19), and let you buy how ever many suit you:

1 license: $129
2 licenses: $129 + $19 = $148, or $74/license
3 licenses: $129 + $19 x 2 = $167, or $56/license
4 licenses: $129 + $19 x 3 = $186, or $47/license
5 licenses: $129 + $19 x 4 = $205, or $41/license
6 licenses: $129 + $19 x 5 = $224, or $37/license
7 licenses: $129 + $19 x 6 = $243, or $35/license
8 licenses: $129 + $19 x 7 = $262, or $33/license
9 licenses: $129 + $19 x 8 = $281, or $31/license
10 licenses: $129 + $19 x 9 = $300, or $30/license

Perhaps they wouldn't want to package retail boxes for each of these separate license levels, but selling these licenses online should be no problem - they have computers to manage it all, don't they?

Variation: Apple could gradually reduce the incremental price, e.g., $129 for one license, $30 more for a 2nd license, $20 more for a 3rd license, and $10 more for each subsequent license, up to some maximum.

1 license: $129
2 licenses: $129 + $30 = $159, or $80/license
3 licenses: $129 + $30 + $20 = $179, or $60/license
4 licenses: $129 + $30 + $20 + $10 = $189, or $47/license
5 licenses: $129 + $30 + $20 + $10 x 2 = $199, or $40/license
6 licenses: $129 + $30 + $20 + $10 x 3 = $209, or $35/license
7 licenses: $129 + $30 + $20 + $10 x 4 = $219, or $31/license
8 licenses: $129 + $30 + $20 + $10 x 5 = $229, or $29/license
9 licenses: $129 + $30 + $20 + $10 x 6 = $239, or $27/license
10 licenses: $129 + $30 + $20 + $10 x 7 = $249, or $25/license

Both of these schemes hit the same approximate price points: $129 for one license, $199 or so for five license. Home licensing is always entirely on the honor system, and this way people with 2 or 3 Macs might be more likely to be cooperative about buying the proper licenses.

As somebody who bought one Tiger Family Pack and one single-license Tiger to install on a total of 6 Macs, I'd appreciate a fairer system.
 
That's quite some post Dr.Q!
I would have preferred it in a mathematical formula, but that's just me!
X = Single Licence = $129; 1<Y<4 = after 1 license additional licenses up to 5 = $20; 1<Z<10 = after 5 licenses additional licenses up to 15 = $10;
1X = 129
1X + 1Y = 149
1X + 4Y + 1Z = 219 etc.

Feel free to rip my maths apart! I'm only a 4th year engineering student! :eek:
 
Or they could always look up Apple's Volume Licensing Program to see what Apple really charges for those retail seats...

Mac OS X v10.4 "Tiger" (10-99 Seats) - price per license D2970Z/A $119.00

Mac OS X v10.4 "Tiger" (100-999 Seats) - price per license D2971Z/A $109.00

Mac OS X v10.4 "Tiger" (1000+ Seats) - price per license D2972Z/A $99.00
 
James Philp said:
I would have preferred it in a mathematical formula
A formula for Apple's current pricing:

For n Tiger licenses, you pay
$199 x rounddown( (n+3) / 5 ) + $129 x (24 x m - 26 x m^2 + 9 x m^3 - m^4) / 6​
where rounddown(x) means x rounded down to an integer

and m = n - rounddown(n/5) x 5
 
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