How much will the 2012 MBP devale the 2011 MBP?

[phaedarus]

I've read quite a few speculations on the price of secondhand 2011s plummeting following the release of the 2012 MBP.

I currently own a late 2011 MBP and while it will serve me just fine for some time, I'm anxious to avoid being caught in a similar circumstance where I found my old G4 Powermac valued much the same as a heavy metal doorstop with the release of the Intel Macs.

The 2011 MBPs themselves were considered a radical upgrade from the 2010 MBPs, what affect did they have on the resale value of those MBPs?

If the 2012 MBP is as revolutionary as the rumors claim, how would much would I stand to lose selling the 2011 after the fact?

 

[srxtr]

Anywhere from marginal to a lot.

I'd say it's gonna be revolutionary. Maybe even evolutionary.

 

[EwanMcTeagle]

From what I see in Poland older (2008-2011) MBPS hold from 50 to 75% of their original price, depending on the specs. The previous form model MPBS are being sold for 10% to 30% of their original price also depending on the specs.
But these are used computers, so I presume it may look similar with the 2012 MBPS thought they'll keep their price better IMHO. I wonder how much will the prices of new (not used) 2012 MBPs?

 

[miles01110]

Nobody knows. These kinds of questions are always pretty pointless.

 

[charlieegan3]

it is meant to be a milestone so chances are more than a standard refresh.

 

[Dangerous Theory]

From what I see in Poland older (2008-2011) MBPS hold from 50 to 75% of their original price, depending on the specs. The previous form model MPBS are being sold for 10% to 30% of their original price also depending on the specs.
But these are used computers, so I presume it may look similar with the 2012 MBPS thought they'll keep their price better IMHO. I wonder how much will the prices of new (not used) 2012 MBPs?

That's ridiculous. I doubt for a second a 2010 MBP is being sold for 10% of its original price. Assuming the entry-level one - That's the equivalent of £100 here which would have everybody buying them. I've not seem them for less than around. £500. 2011s are probably around £700

 

[314631]

If the new MacBook Pros are as resolutionary as I expect then everyone will be rushing to sell their old ones, and prices will plummet.

 

[Nielsenius]

If the new MacBook Pros are as resolutionary as I expect then everyone will be rushing to sell their old ones, and prices will plummet.

I don't think that this will be the case. To most consumers a laptop of any kind is a four or five year item. When I go to my local Apple Store's Genius Bar I see lots of older Macs. This forum is a very small percentage of the total Mac-user population. We get the latest Macs, most people don't. No matter how revolutionary the new MBPs are, most people will stick to what they've got. Sure, prices will drop, but it won't be a mass exodus of old Macs hitting eBay.

 

[lamboman]

If the rumours are to go by, the new MBP will be thinner, mostly because of the lack of an optical drive, and will be a tad more powerful (around 5-15% realistically). Not a revolutionary change by any means.

As a relatively late buyer of a 2011 model, the only thing that would make me upgrade would be a higher resolution display, nothing else; in my case, this wouldn't make me upgrade. I'm willing to bet that the same will be said by virtually all 2011 owners, particularly the 13" and 15" models.

A redesign doesn't necessarily mean a revolutionary change. Of course, there will be plenty of 2010 owners switching to the newer models, if they really, really require the extra power.

 

[ugahairydawgs]

OP....you're basically asking what are tomorrow night's lotto numbers.

Nobody knows. If you're comfortable with using your current rig for a few years then it really doesn't matter what the 2nd hand market is going to be for current gen MBPs.

 

[huythanhv2]

I still cannot get over how the (4 cores) 2011 one burned my (maxed out) 2010!!!

She's still going stronger than ever though

 

[heisenberg123]

it will be worth $4.75 when the new one drops, but ill give you $20 to sell it now

 

[TJ5921]

I have an i5 mid-2010 MBP w/ antiglare and upgraded to 8 gb ram with lion installed. I love this machine and could easily see myself having it for another 3-5 years but I am considering selling it and essentially swapping it for a 2012 13 in. MBA or 13 in. MBP. It's a tough decision because the longer I wait to upgrade, the less money I'd get for my 2010. I'm guessing I could get around $1,200 for my mbp which would basically pay for the 13 in mba or mbp. Any thoughts?

 

[Eithanius]

Who cares abou value...? I value my souped-up 2010 MBP running strong on Snow Leopard even more... You want a 2012 MBP running on a buggy Lion, be my guest...

 

[JasonR]

Who cares abou value...? I value my souped-up 2010 MBP running strong on Snow Leopard even more... You want a 2012 MBP running on a buggy Lion, be my guest...

Lion isn't buggy for me, and I can always run Snow Leopard on my 2011 MBP. lol

 

[Mojo1]

I'm anxious to avoid being caught in a similar circumstance where I found my old G4 Powermac valued much the same as a heavy metal doorstop with the release of the Intel Macs.

There is a significant difference between a G4 Power Mac and an Intel Power Mac. You skipped the G5 CPUs altogether and presumably got years of satisfactory use out of your Mac. It's understandable that the G4 wasn't worth much when the Intel Macs were introduced.

I purchased a Mac 7300 604e CPU just two months before the G3 Macs came out. At the time I was a newbie and I was not aware of Apple product cycles or resources on the Internet for keeping up on rumored hardware updates. If I had purchased a G3 Mac I would have been able to get another couple of years out of my Mac.

As it turned out I kept the Mac for over five years but I didn't use it much the last couple of years. In the end I couldn't find a buyer and I gave away a system that had originally cost me around $5000.

I don't expect the rumored 2012 update to be revolutionary. And I'm concerned that Apple may use the same LCD in the MBP that is used in the MBA. Depending on what Apple does with the MBP I may forgo a 2012 MBP and snag a heavily discounted 2011 model. Most of my Macs have been purchased after new models were introduced; I've saved up to 50% on a new previous-generation Mac. When I later sold the Macs I have tended to recoup much of my purchase price.

If you must have the Latest and Greatest you pay for the privilege, including potentially dealing with hardware and software bugs. I prefer getting a great deal and remaining debt-free.

 

[EwanMcTeagle]

That's ridiculous. I doubt for a second a 2010 MBP is being sold for 10% of its original price. Assuming the entry-level one - That's the equivalent of £100 here which would have everybody buying them. I've not seem them for less than around. £500. 2011s are probably around £700

You are right, I was a bit off.
Here are some examples of Polish prices for used MBPs

http://allegro.pl/17-apple-macbook-pro-c2d-2x2-16ghz-2gb-320gb-ati-i2283106829.html - 99 GBP with 2 days left

http://allegro.pl/15-apple-macbook-pro-c2d-2x2-0ghz-2gb-250gb-ati-i2278251064.html - 176 GBP now with 1 hour left

newer, CoreDuo MBP
http://allegro.pl/macbook-pro-13-2-53ghz-4gb-ram-wawa-bdb-i2270863756.html - Buy now for 491 GBP

http://allegro.pl/macbook-pro-13-2-26-ghz-okazja-i2254831545.html - 393 GBP, 20 hrs left, no one bidding

Apple MacBook White 13,3" 2.1 GHz - http://allegro.pl/apple-macbook-4-1-2-1ghz-dvd-rw-160gb-2gb-i2282850960.html- Buy now for 393 GBP

http://allegro.pl/macbook-unibody-2-4ghz-320gb-3gb-gf-320m-i2273825392.html - buy now for 412 GBP

And you're right, the i5 MBP is almost 700 GBP:
http://allegro.pl/macbook-pro-13-i5-4gb-320gb-gwarancja-i2278159761.html - 688 GBP.

But still that's just absurd, because you can get a new MBP for 700 GBP in the US - http://www.macmall.com/p/Apple-MacBook-Pro/product~dpno~8899069~pdp.gjcfgec

PS. That's why I'll be buying one there and having a friend of a friend getting it for me. Paying around 1000 GBP for a new one in Poland is a misunderstanding - when an average wage is around 500 GBP and I earn almost 2x average wage and I would still struggle to buy a new MBP from a Polish retailer.

 

[theSeb]

PS. That's why I'll be buying one there and having a friend of a friend getting it for me. Paying around 1000 GBP for a new one in Poland is a misunderstanding - when an average wage is around 500 GBP and I earn almost 2x average wage and I would still struggle to buy a new MBP from a Polish retailer.

There is no misunderstanding. You should spend more time working and less time mucking about on the internet, comrade!

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If the rumours are to go by, the new MBP will be thinner,

But if it's thinner, then surely it should be LESS expensive since we're getting less. I think this means that the 2011 modes will actually INCREASE in price because there is more aluminium. Of course, this is also highly dependant on the prices of aluminium in the next couple of weeks.

 

[thermodynamic]

That's ridiculous. I doubt for a second a 2010 MBP is being sold for 10% of its original price. Assuming the entry-level one - That's the equivalent of £100 here which would have everybody buying them. I've not seem them for less than around. £500. 2011s are probably around £700

10% is too low, but the upper limit is closer to 50% - hardly anything close to 75%.

Even trying to sell a 6 mo 2011MBP with AppleCare (2.75 remaining) and 8GB of (faster-than-stock) RAM, and other souped up specs, with case in same condition as I'd bought it in, and for $200 less than a refub stock model off of Apple's site at the time, nobody bought despite some followers to the auction... I'd sold less for more in the past and have a 100% rating, but in this day and age people want more for less -- much less. Than even fair value given the condition of a product...

 

[funnyatleast]

10% is too low, but the upper limit is closer to 50% - hardly anything close to 75%.

Even trying to sell a 6 mo 2011MBP with AppleCare (2.75 remaining) and 8GB of (faster-than-stock) RAM, and other souped up specs, with case in same condition as I'd bought it in, and for $200 less than a refub stock model off of Apple's site at the time, nobody bought despite some followers to the auction... I'd sold less for more in the past and have a 100% rating, but in this day and age people want more for less -- much less. Than even fair value given the condition of a product...

I wouldn't agree with this. I usually sell my MBP every year after each refresh (8months ish) and I usually sell them easily for 1000. I always get the base price on 13inch, nothing added.

 

[Freyqq]

you can expect better battery life, usb 3, amd 7xxx video card, and probably 8 gb of ram standard in the 15". The rest is ambiguous.

 

[EwanMcTeagle]

Really?

There is no misunderstanding. You should spend more time working and less time mucking about on the internet, comrade!

Wish it was that easy I have a full time job and it's my first full time. One can always say that it might've been better, but at the same time none of my friends was able to get a better job. So I can't really complain if I take into account Polish economy and job market. Yet I'm also doing some small freelance jobs on monthly basis.
So believe me when I say that it's not a question of working more.
I work in a capitol city - Warsaw, where the wages are highest in the country and I have 1170 GBP of gross income per month. The same position in London is being paid almost 2400 GBP per month (http://www.salarytrack.co.uk/salary...on=london&job-title=on&submit=Search+Salaries).
And now let's look at the MBP prices (Apple online store):
UK - MBP starts from 999 GBP which is around 5 000 Polish Zloty (PLN)
PL - MBP starts from 1 032 GBP = 5299 PLN
Now, please tell me I should be working more...