How to install iMovie 6 from iLife '06 Install DVD without over-writing iMovie '08?

[flyinmac]

Hello All,

I asked this over in the Apple Discussions without much input (got a reply, but thought it would be nice to get more responses and experiences).

Anyway, I have a new Intel Mac Pro 2.66 arriving sometime in the next couple of days.

Since it is a new machine, it will have iLife '08 on it already. But, I am pretty sure it will not include iMovie 6.

I know that by right-clicking on the package for the iLife installer, and clicking on "Show Package Contents", that I can get to an installer for iMovie 6 without installing the rest of iLife '06.

I am fully aware of the downloadable iMovie 6.0.4. But, I would prefer to just install from my iLife '06 DVD.

First, I suspect that there may be some items missing from the download (maybe not, but I don't want to take the chance). For example, maybe they left out certain transitions, certain effects, or something else to make the download size reasonable. Going with a full install from the DVD, I can make sure I have everything that originally came on the DVD install.

Second, I already have the iLife '06 Family Pack. So, it would be convenient to install from the DVD since I wouldn't have to wait for my slow Internet service to download a program I already have on disk.

So, here's my question. Has anyone done this?

Basically, I do want to leave iMovie '08 installed. So, I don't want to over-write the '08 version.

Additionally, I am aware that iMovie '08 places iMovie 6 in a different folder. But, naturally, it won't be able to do that automatically since iMovie 6 will be installed after iMovie '08.

Of course, I suspect I could just pick a new location to install iMovie 6. But, would that create a problem since I will still need to have iMovie 6 and iDVD pass the movies back and forth (as usual).

So, I want to be sure that everything is where it needs to be to work properly and without potential for conflicts or unanticipated issues.

I'll look forward to hearing your experiences here.

 

[panzer06]

Hello All,

I asked this over in the Apple Discussions without much input (got a reply, but thought it would be nice to get more responses and experiences).

Anyway, I have a new Intel Mac Pro 2.66 arriving sometime in the next couple of days.

Since it is a new machine, it will have iLife '08 on it already. But, I am pretty sure it will not include iMovie 6.

I know that by right-clicking on the package for the iLife installer, and clicking on "Show Package Contents", that I can get to an installer for iMovie 6 without installing the rest of iLife '06.

I am fully aware of the downloadable iMovie 6.0.4. But, I would prefer to just install from my iLife '06 DVD.

First, I suspect that there may be some items missing from the download (maybe not, but I don't want to take the chance). For example, maybe they left out certain transitions, certain effects, or something else to make the download size reasonable. Going with a full install from the DVD, I can make sure I have everything that originally came on the DVD install.

Second, I already have the iLife '06 Family Pack. So, it would be convenient to install from the DVD since I wouldn't have to wait for my slow Internet service to download a program I already have on disk.

So, here's my question. Has anyone done this?

Basically, I do want to leave iMovie '08 installed. So, I don't want to over-write the '08 version.

Additionally, I am aware that iMovie '08 places iMovie 6 in a different folder. But, naturally, it won't be able to do that automatically since iMovie 6 will be installed after iMovie '08.

Of course, I suspect I could just pick a new location to install iMovie 6. But, would that create a problem since I will still need to have iMovie 6 and iDVD pass the movies back and forth (as usual).

So, I want to be sure that everything is where it needs to be to work properly and without potential for conflicts or unanticipated issues.

I'll look forward to hearing your experiences here.

Just go here and get the separate download for owners of iLife8

http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/imovieHD6.html

Cheers,

 

[Mernak]

I am fully aware of the downloadable iMovie 6.0.4. But, I would prefer to just install from my iLife '06 DVD.

First, I suspect that there may be some items missing from the download (maybe not, but I don't want to take the chance). For example, maybe they left out certain transitions, certain effects, or something else to make the download size reasonable. Going with a full install from the DVD, I can make sure I have everything that originally came on the DVD install.

Second, I already have the iLife '06 Family Pack. So, it would be convenient to install from the DVD since I wouldn't have to wait for my slow Internet service to download a program I already have on disk.

Please read the OP.

But I would think that you should be able to just move the iMovie '08 executable to a different folder before you install, then move iMovie '06 somewhere else and it should work. iMovies just stores the data in the usual place, right now i have it in a "defaults" folder under applications and it has not given me any trouble.

 

[flyinmac]

Please read the OP.

But I would think that you should be able to just move the iMovie '08 executable to a different folder before you install, then move iMovie '06 somewhere else and it should work. iMovies just stores the data in the usual place, right now i have it in a "defaults" folder under applications and it has not given me any trouble.

Yes, that is kind of what I was thinking. But, then I was concerned after reading Apple's little warning about installing things in non-standard locations (regarding things breaking in iLife '08 because people had installed '06 in nonstandard locations).

So, I was concerned that if I did that manually, that iLife might "break". But, it would seem that it should be fine since that's essentially what iLife '08 does with iMovie 6.

But, then again, maybe Apple has some little script that executes when it moves iMovie 6 to it's new location. Perhaps a little pointer it makes that I wouldn't have if I did it myself manually?

I'm just considering the possibilities, and looking for ideas from others who might know better than myself. Or, perhaps someone's already done this and knows it will work fine.

All input welcome

 

[theBB]

I remember reading posts that iLife '08 installation moves the old version to a different location instead of overwriting it.

 

[flyinmac]

I remember reading posts that iLife '08 installation moves the old version to a different location instead of overwriting it.

Yes, that is true. Unfortunately, I'm looking at putting iMovie 6 on a new computer that already has iLife '08 on it. So, iLife '08 won't be able to automatically move it.

My concern, is that if I just place it in a different folder myself, will it still work correctly? Or, will it only work correctly if I let iLife move it to a different location?

 

[mattraehl]

remove '08 first

Your best bet for everything working correctly is to just download the installer Apple provided. But since you are looking to avoid that, your next best option is probably to remove iLife '08 from the computer once you get it, then install iLife '06, then install iLife '08 again.

 

[flyinmac]

Your best bet for everything working correctly is to just download the installer Apple provided. But since you are looking to avoid that, your next best option is probably to remove iLife '08 from the computer once you get it, then install iLife '06, then install iLife '08 again.

Yes, I may just end up doing that.

I've been thinking of just re-installing the whole OS X installation anyway. That way I can customize it to have X11 pre-installed, and get rid of all the foreign languages, and tweak everything a bit. So, if I do that, I might see if it will let me install without iLife, and then install iLife Separately if I can find the installer for that on the disks that come with the computer.

That would allow me to install the '06 version from my DVD, and then install the '08 version from the restore disks (assuming I can find the individual installer).

 

[flyinmac]

iLife '08 didn't move iMovie 6

Well, I decided to re-install everything on my new Machine right after setting it up and testing it.

I wanted to get it configured exactly my way, and deselect all the foreign languages.

So, during installation, I left off the iLife '08 by customizing the OS X installation.

After OS X was done, I installed iLife '06 in it's entirety from my DVD. Then, I proceeded to update it (using the previous updates that I had saved to my external hard drive). I updated it all the way to the latest revision of everything in iLife '06.

Once that was done, I installed iLife '08 from my OS X restore / install disks that came with the new computer.

The end result was iLife '08 over-writing my iLife '06 completely (including iMovie 6).

Well, it did leave a blank icon for iMovie HD (looked like an AppleWorks document icon).

But, the file it left was only 2 MB in size. So, obviously not iMovie 6. And, when clicked, it wouldn't launch anything.

So, I guess the factory install version of iLife '08 will not move iMovie 6 like the retail version does.

So, I ended-up downloading the iMovie 6.0.4 file from Apple's site anyway. I did install it, and compare all the transitions, effects, etc. to a copy of iMovie 6 on my other computer, and it appears to be complete. So, that's good news.

Anyway, just thought I'd let you all know how the experiment turned-out. Perhaps it will save someone else the hassle, and also let them know that the download is a complete version on par with the retail version (which was my biggest concern).

Thank you all for your input.

 

[theBB]

So, I guess the factory install version of iLife '08 will not move iMovie 6 like the retail version does.

Thanks, that's good info.

I wonder if the retail version asks the user whether to move or overwrite.

 

[flyinmac]

Thanks, that's good info.

I wonder if the retail version asks the user whether to move or overwrite.

You're welcome. Hopefully it will help contribute to the building knowledge base of information about iLife '08.

I got the impression (from all that has been said about the retail version) that the retail version moves iMovie 6 automatically without asking. But, it would be good to have someone confirm that.

I'm guessing that the factory restore disks don't move it because they assume it going on a new system without any older software on it.

 

[alzatron]

Don't be surprised that you didn't get an answer.

Apple is aggressively deleting negative posts regarding iMovie 08. Asking how to install iMovie 06 may have been interpreted that way.

 

[blipper]

it does

I got the impression (from all that has been said about the retail version) that the retail version moves iMovie 6 automatically without asking. But, it would be good to have someone confirm that.

the retail version does move iMovieHD['06] without asking.