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I suggested before about having some sort eye detection like the iPhone has with Face ID to prevent the watch from going to sleep.

But after Apple Vision Pro and double tap for Apple Watch, I would love to also navigate with my eyes and double tapping without getting fingerprints on my display.

Hopefully Apple has plans to make that true 🙏🏻
 
I suggested before about having some sort eye detection like the iPhone has with Face ID to prevent the watch from going to sleep.

But after Apple Vision Pro and double tap for Apple Watch, I would love to also navigate with my eyes and double tapping without getting fingerprints on my display.

Hopefully Apple has plans to make that true 🙏🏻
I sure hope not, cause it would require a camera which would be a huge battery hog plus there is no room for one
 
Have you ever heard of innovation and implementation before?
Yep.

Then there’s that pesky physics stuff spoiling the fanciful dreams of what could be done if cameras / IR emitters & detectors and additional compute power didn’t require power from a size/space constrained battery.

While I won’t say impossible, I’ll call it highly improbable anytime in the next few years. Most of the involved technologies are relatively mature, without much room for improvement barring completely unpredictable surprises
 
Yep.

Then there’s that pesky physics stuff spoiling the fanciful dreams of what could be done if cameras / IR emitters & detectors and additional compute power didn’t require power from a size/space constrained battery.

While I won’t say impossible, I’ll call it highly improbable anytime in the next few years. Most of the involved technologies are relatively mature, without much room for improvement barring completely unpredictable surprises
Apple takes years to develop things, of course it’ll take a lot of time.

But a way to detect eyes would be a lot more simple than eye tracking. Which I hope they still pursue.
 
There is no way this is possible on the watch. The screen is Way too small, Vision Pro uses the whole 360 degrees of the room plus close trackers to the eyes. Maybe blink detection, but douple tap is already better
 
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There is no way this is possible on the watch. The screen is Way too small, Vision Pro uses the whole 360 degrees of the room plus close trackers to the eyes. Maybe blink detection, but douple tap is already better
I think you misunderstood the post
 
A camera... on that little thing?!

Um. I would say it's innovative. But not very possible, and would probably put even more pressure on the small bottle-cap battery.
 
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Until the Vision thing gets reduced to the sort of eyewear that people are already comfortable with (fashion lightweight eyeglasses, contact lenses), the Watch isn’t going away. And I foresee a camera in the watch long before Vision is anything like the glasses currently on my face.

Personally, I want two cameras: the one under the face for Dick Tracy types of video calls that everybody thinks of at first … but more useful to me would be one on the side of the watch pointing away — so you could use the watch like a TLR camera.

To be sure, I wouldn’t be expecting any sort of high quality — certainly nothing worthy of being considered art. Low resolution is perfectly fine, even 1024x768 (not even a megapixel). But it’d be fantastic for the sorts of document scanning, quick reference, reminder, “Can you believe this!?” and all the other sorts of things we’re often using our phone cameras for when we’re not channeling the spirit of Ansel Adams.

By the time any of this gets added to the watch, eye tracking would be a trivial add-on.

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A camera... on that little thing?!

Um. I would say it's innovative. But not very possible, and would probably put even more pressure on the small bottle-cap battery.
I think just eye detection is sufficient and doable enough for now
 
I think just eye detection is sufficient and doable enough for now
Just how would you do that? The watch isn't even in plain view of your eyes unelss you raise it to wake? Cameras and processing does take battery too. Until we get wireless power, I just don't see it.
 
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Just how would you do that? The watch isn't even in plain view of your eyes unelss you raise it to wake? Cameras and processing does take battery too. Until we get wireless power, I just don't see it.
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Maybe you misunderstood the posts, I’m referring to eye detection that would similar to attention aware on iPhone

Face ID only checks if you’re still looking near the auto sleep time, it’s not always running. Apple Watch shines a lot of different lights you know, yet it hasn’t taken a huge toll over the years

There are implementations beyond just what Apple establishes
 
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Maybe you misunderstood the posts, I’m referring to eye detection that would similar to attention aware on iPhone
And how do imagine the feature would be implemented? Would my new Apple Watch have a notch, a dynamic island style hole in the screen, or just a thick bezel on the top for the front-facing camera and sensors?
 
Sounds neat, from a usefulness perspective. Probably a few years out, technologically & from a battery perspective.
 
Apple's working on a magic potion, too! 😁

I’ll wager that virtually all Apple users would rather than week-long battery life than eye tracking!

Keep in mind that all that eyeball scanning could pose health risks.

I can, though, see some important uses for this, especially for those whose hands are occupied or have particular disabilities — but it will come to the iPad and iPhone long before it ever reaches the Watch.
 
Yeah, not sure about eye tracking being feasible any time soon, but it would be nice to increase the “on” time after raising your wrist to look at the watch. Right now it’s, what, 15 seconds or something (maybe less) unless you touch the display. I’d like 30 seconds or more. Yes, might use more power throughout the day, but could be an option with a little warning underneath like some other options.
 
And how do imagine the feature would be implemented? Would my new Apple Watch have a notch, a dynamic island style hole in the screen, or just a thick bezel on the top for the front-facing camera and sensors?
Well no, I wasn’t conceiving designs based on previous ones.

Apparently rumours suggested that Face ID can be hidden behind the display except for the camera, well if they can insert one of its components responsible for just detecting eyes, and have it behind the glass like the proximity sensor, then that would be great.
 
Yeah, not sure about eye tracking being feasible any time soon, but it would be nice to increase the “on” time after raising your wrist to look at the watch. Right now it’s, what, 15 seconds or something (maybe less) unless you touch the display. I’d like 30 seconds or more. Yes, might use more power throughout the day, but could be an option with a little warning underneath like some other options.
I think the flood illuminator is what checks for eyes in Face ID, if they can put that on Apple Watch, I would be happy. I’m not asking for the whole array.

I don’t see how it would kill battery life if it checks moments before 15 secs passes, when Apple Watches can also check heart rate and blast 2000 nits now.
 
and it doesn’t have to be the same technology from the their headset to do eye tracking
 
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