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I will never use anothe MacOS Beta
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Hopefully apple will make it clear the Betas aren't for important work computers in the future.
if you don't want to troubleshoot betas, don't install betas. people who expect everything to be perfect with a beta release (which doesn't even happen with final releases; hence, point updates) are missing the point...
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They have been warning users to not installs betas on mission critical machines for the 30 years I have been working on Macs. I have two 1tb drives that I use for beta testing. I never install a beta on my production iMac.
They already did: "We strongly recommend installing on a secondary system or device, or on a secondary partition on your Mac."
Apple Beta — FAQ
Forget the beta forever. I don't install release software until it has reached the last point release. I don't really feel that I am missing out on some new feature that can't wait a year.
and yet you're here, on the ventura forum, discussing it.
what's the point of this thread? no one should run beta software unless they're willing to take on the risks, and report bugs & issues in the feedback app. the 'fun' part of being an early adopter is much diminished when one encounters real-world issues. it's not for everyone.
Of course, I am an observer. This was always my common practice with supported Macs. Now, that I within the realm of unsupported Macs using OLCP then the wait for Ventura will be that much longer. I don't have to worry about "real-world issues" since I am retired. No real reason to risk issues just because I could take the risk. For me, Macs are for entertainment and home use like tax preparation. I don't need them for any real work which is always incredulous when people who do install a beta.
many of us use our macs for more than 'entertainment and home use'. and people who install betas choose to do so, for whatever reason. personally, i find it an adventure... either way, telling people to 'forget the beta forever' is a big statement from someone who calls themselves 'an observer'...
Yep, it is what I believe to be a valid observation. End-users would be better off for it. I stand by the statement that especially if you use a Mac for real work do not install betas. In fact, you should be questioning whether you should install an initial release. By all means, install for the adventure especially if you are developer who needs to verify software. I am not sure Apple has really created enough of a delta from release to release for the end-user to call it a worthy adventure. It seems Apple adds more bugs than anything else. The quality of Apple's work needs a longer incubation period than a year. Even so, there is no one else that can do better which is why the Mac will always be the computer of choice. Once more, why needlessly create problems for yourself with so little value gained?
^^^^Folks like me have ten internal SSDs. Four are bootable with OSs installed. Two are the latest released OS, a main and a backup. Two are the current OS in Beta. One is the latest beta, the other is for the previous beta that was shown to work.
If I only had one or two drives I would never test a beta.
Works for me👍
Lou
If I only had one or two drives I would never test a beta.
Works for me👍
Lou
I just load the betas on a back up MBP. The Studio is my main computer. Wouldn't recommend loading betas on your main machine. I never did that until I got the studio and now have a backup machine. Always wanted to do the Beta Program but wouldn't until now. I'm really enjoying having some input into the development of new OSs.
it's an opinion, and you're entitled to it. fortunately, people can decide for themselves what to do, and can, in fact, have their own opinions. that's how opinions work.
Once again, stating the obvious. All of the posts on this board are opinion. Any facts that anyone happens to state have to be verified outside the forum. I watched your posts for sometime, and in my opinion you always have to have the last word. So I expect a reply anytime even though I haven't really stated anything at all.
Odd. I have no trouble with Xcode 14, command-line tools, or Homebrew. It complains it is on an unsupported system, but everything works fine. What error do you see?
I have seen "xcode-select --install" not work on some systems, but I simply download the installer and get them going that way.
Given that you are using this for work, may I ask what motivated you to install a beta? It seems like a surprising choice, so I'm curious what was behind it. The only folks I'd imagine installing betas on work computers would be sofware devs or sys admins trying to get their apps and systems ready for the stable release, tech reviewers doing a pre-release review, etc...