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I am not sure which is better here. I am considering switching from my almost maxed 2019 13" to a 2016 for screen real estate but I can't work out the best processor to go for. When I try to run VMs on my 13", the fans run loud and hot. It works but is not ideal. I could put 4 of 6 cores to the VM on a 16" and it might help things as not all cores are going max. Would 8 be better? The8 base clock is lower though, does that mean that it runs slower day to day on not intensive tasks because the 6 cores are running faster? or it doesn't matter because both boost when they need it?
My workloads are unlikely to max the processor out massively but I could imagine having quite a few multi-core happy processes.I can save money by going base model upgraded to 32GB/2TB but for not *that* much more I can get the 8 core with higher graphics. (I sometimes game but nothing hardcore). Would like to keep the machine for a while.
 
Any VM you run, no matter how many cores, will cause your fans to spin-up because you are simply using more than one core. Also, when using a VM, you will be using your dedicated GPU.
 
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You probably should be able to get away with the I7 as both processors are formidable. Based on what I have read/seen, I would recommend getting the base and updating the machine in this order. I would lean towards only doing 1 and 2 and skipping 3.
  1. Upgrade GPU
  2. Upgrade RAM
  3. Upgrade storage space
  4. Upgrade CPU
 
My experience is with VMWare Fusion. Their recommendation is one virtual CPU per VM. And they count a thread as a vCPU so you actually have 12 for the 6 core and 16 for the 8 core. That is plenty.

Also a Win10 machine for simple office work can be run with 4 GB RAM. I run two VM with 4 GB and one vCPU, and one for development with 8 GB and 4 vCPU.

Fusion by default does not use the dGPU if you are not doing 3D graphics.

VM do consume a lot of disk, upwards to a 100 GB each.

So I would probaply prioritize disk first, followed by memory and then cores. Of course what type of work load you will be running in your VM has a great impact.
 
You probably should be able to get away with the I7 as both processors are formidable. Based on what I have read/seen, I would recommend getting the base and updating the machine in this order. I would lean towards only doing 1 and 2 and skipping 3.
  1. Upgrade GPU
  2. Upgrade RAM
  3. Upgrade storage space
  4. Upgrade CPU

Exactly what I did.

1. Maxed GPU (8GB 5500M)
2. Mid level RAM (32 GB)
3. Poverty SSD
4. Poverty CPU
 
Exactly what I did.

1. Maxed GPU (8GB 5500M)
2. Mid level RAM (32 GB)
3. Poverty SSD
4. Poverty CPU
This is a solid configuration and also my preference. 32 GB RAM is better in the long-term, and the maxed-out GPU is a good idea as that tends to show its age before the CPU does. The base i7 is no slouch and easily outperforms the 2017 5K iMac with the maxed-out i7 in multi-core.
Does anyone know if there would be any noticeable difference in battery life between 6-core and 8-core?
I'm curious about this as well. Considering the i9 has a lower base clock it's possible that it actually has better battery life for non-intensive usage. But I doubt there is much of a difference between the two.
 
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