ok, i'd like to know where the hell the aol gets off suggesting i can video chat with windows aim users. EVERY SINGLE windows aim client i've tried to chat with (v 5.5 - 5.9) simply refuses to work, even one-way. sometimes on my side it says the connection is fine, and chat is open. however, on the windows aim client side, all they get is a blank video window - no picture. ironically, the audio does work, so we can audio chat (although aol says this "feature" is not implemented). most times though, it simply stalls at "connecting to user". likewise, the stall is similar on their side, only it says "establishing connection." this'll "run" at this stall as long as you leave. what garbage. it's **** like this and quicken that make me consider going wintel. any suggestions welcome. all users are on cable modems or dsl. real ips.