iCloud Backup

[Dima470]

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hey for anyone who has tried, does iCloud back up you APPS, or just appdata? If i do restore from iCloud backup will i just be able to download the appstore app then have the savedata back?

 

[shandyman]

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hey for anyone who has tried, does iCloud back up you APPS, or just appdata? If i do restore from iCloud backup will i just be able to download the appstore app then have the savedata back?

It backs up your app data, when restoring, it restores apps from the itunes app store

 

[Gjwilly]

It backs up your app data, when restoring, it restores apps from the itunes app store

I'm not really sure about that because the last time I restored, the app store immediately infomed me that there were updates available for some of my apps.
In other words it restored older versions even though newer versions had been released days before.
Either apps really are being backed up or else the app store stores both current and older versions of apps on their servers.

 

[shandyman]

I'm not really sure about that because the last time I restored, the app store immediately infomed me that there were updates available for some of my apps.
In other words it restored older versions even though newer versions had been released days before.
Either apps really are being backed up or else the app store stores both current and older versions of apps on their servers.

it's not backing up apps, as apps that are no longer available in the app store are restoring to mine, i have to re-add them manually from iTunes, like VLC

 

[mattdo93]

It backs up apps and app data. Don't have to start over on Angry Birds, Cut the Rope, and Fruit Ninja. Pretty awesome

 

[Jlrera]

yeah its great, like the above post said, you don't have to start all over in all the apps, though it does take time depending on how many apps you got.

 

[imutter]

yeah great until you get this in your e-mail

Your iCloud storage is almost full

As a reminder, iCloud comes with 5 GB of free storage. You are currently using 4.1 GB, which means your iCloud storage is almost full. When your storage is full, device backups to iCloud will stop and apps will no longer be able to save documents to iCloud.

To ensure your iCloud services continue without interruption, you can buy more storage or free up space by following the steps below:

Step 1: On your iOS device, go to Settings and tap iCloud.
Step 2: Tap Storage & Backup.
Step 3: Choose Buy More Storage to upgrade your storage plan, or Manage Storage to free up space in your account.

You can also buy more iCloud storage from a Mac or PC. For more information on managing your iCloud storage, please read this article.

 

[SR71]

yeah great until you get this in your e-mail

Your iCloud storage is almost full

As a reminder, iCloud comes with 5 GB of free storage. You are currently using 4.1 GB, which means your iCloud storage is almost full. When your storage is full, device backups to iCloud will stop and apps will no longer be able to save documents to iCloud.

To ensure your iCloud services continue without interruption, you can buy more storage or free up space by following the steps below:

Step 1: On your iOS device, go to Settings and tap iCloud.
Step 2: Tap Storage & Backup.
Step 3: Choose Buy More Storage to upgrade your storage plan, or Manage Storage to free up space in your account.

You can also buy more iCloud storage from a Mac or PC. For more information on managing your iCloud storage, please read this article.

Jeez how much stuff do you have on your iPhone? I still have 4.1GB of space left in my iCloud!

 

[shandyman]

yeah great until you get this in your e-mail

Your iCloud storage is almost full

As a reminder, iCloud comes with 5 GB of free storage. You are currently using 4.1 GB, which means your iCloud storage is almost full. When your storage is full, device backups to iCloud will stop and apps will no longer be able to save documents to iCloud.

To ensure your iCloud services continue without interruption, you can buy more storage or free up space by following the steps below:

Step 1: On your iOS device, go to Settings and tap iCloud.
Step 2: Tap Storage & Backup.
Step 3: Choose Buy More Storage to upgrade your storage plan, or Manage Storage to free up space in your account.

You can also buy more iCloud storage from a Mac or PC. For more information on managing your iCloud storage, please read this article.

just deselect some apps from updating, the app that took up the most on mine was spotify, i disabled that from backing up as it would probably take just the same amount of time as syncing my spotify library direct from the PC, tho should be quicker as not reliant on my internet connection. Am sure whatever is using the most space is something similar.

 

[cookiesnfooty]

I've got 24.6GB left on mine and have a lot of apps installed so I don't think all info is stored.

I do note developers have the option of storing some of the data online through the app through iCloud.

 

[Gjwilly]

Jeez how much stuff do you have on your iPhone? I still have 4.1GB of space left in my iCloud!

Same here.
And i've got more than 4GB of apps on the phone.
Either apps aren't being backed up or else they don't apply toward your quota just like music doesn't apply.

 

[Krevnik]

Same here.
And i've got more than 4GB of apps on the phone.
Either apps aren't being backed up or else they don't apply toward your quota just like music doesn't apply.

Apps and Music aren't backed up since they can be redownloaded from the store (notice that you can redownload most stuff that has been pulled from the store using your purchases list).

The backups are solely device settings, app settings, and app data. Some apps will get data into a backup that probably shouldn't be there, like Spotify's music, which adds up quickly.

 

[shandyman]

Apps and Music aren't backed up since they can be redownloaded from the store (notice that you can redownload most stuff that has been pulled from the store using your purchases list).

thats what i was trying to say, but people don't seem to get that.

apps like spotify are meant to be able to fully backup, that's what the storage space is for.

 

[thunderbunny]

thats what i was trying to say, but people don't seem to get that

they just fall in love with your English accent but don't hear what you're saying bless 'em

 

[Krevnik]

apps like spotify are meant to be able to fully backup, that's what the storage space is for.

I would have to disagree with this, since the music content actually comes from other sources and so shouldn't be in the backup (much like music isn't). It can bloat the backup quite a bit. Much like TomTom's map corrections data, and so on.

Apps have a location to store information in a 'cache' that will survive reboots and the like, but won't get included in the backup. That's really where that sort of content belongs. Spotify can easily pull down the device settings from the backup and start syncing/caching based on what the settings said was cached.

 

[shandyman]

I would have to disagree with this, since the music content actually comes from other sources and so shouldn't be in the backup (much like music isn't). It can bloat the backup quite a bit. Much like TomTom's map corrections data, and so on.

Apps have a location to store information in a 'cache' that will survive reboots and the like, but won't get included in the backup. That's really where that sort of content belongs. Spotify can easily pull down the device settings from the backup and start syncing/caching based on what the settings said was cached.

it's no different than dropbox's contents being backed up and that can be anything. also comiczeal backs up all it's content too. the fact that those 2 apps do so is extremely handy and it is what is intended. iCloud backups are meant to mirror iTunes backups and all the apps mentioned behave the same in both ways. if spotify wasn't meant to do it and is using a loophole, apple would have closed it by now as it's been out for a long time.

 

[thunderbunny]

just deselect some apps from updating, the app that took up the most on mine was spotify, i disabled that from backing up as it would probably take just the same amount of time as syncing my spotify library direct from the PC, tho should be quicker as not reliant on my internet connection. Am sure whatever is using the most space is something similar.

How do you select/deselect apps? Have not seen any option for this anywhere

 

[shandyman]

How do you select/deselect apps? Have not seen any option for this anywhere

Settings -> iCloud -> Storage & Backup -> Manage Storage -> Select the backup you want to manage (so in this case it's the one that says 'This iPhone) then theres the heading Backup Options, which takes a minute to load, then you will see a list of all the installed apps with an On/Off switch and it lets you choose which app data gets backed up. It shows the first 5, but if you press 'Show All Apps' you get the full list.

 

[Krandor]

The backups are solely device settings, app settings, and app data. Some apps will get data into a backup that probably shouldn't be there, like Spotify's music, which adds up quickly.

I have a comic reader app on my iPad and iCloud tried to back up all the comics that were stored in it which was a good bit. That was one app I had to turn off for iCloud syncing, but it is quick and easy to disable just the one app so no big deal.