if apple release a 13" mbp

[aleni]

so rumor about someday apple is going to add retina display to the 13" mbp, what do u think about the resolution?

is it going to be 1280x800 retinized? or just like the 15" mbp?

i'll be pissed off if the screen has a glorified 1280x800 retinized because it will have a screen real estate as the same as the current 13" mbp which sucks so bad.

anyway, when u set the resolution in 15" rmbp to have more space than retina, is it going to be a little bit blurry like u use 1280x800 on the 13" macbook aor which has 1440x900? or is it going to be as sharp as the 17" mbp?

sorry if you guys confused by my bad english.

 

[lympero]

so rumor about someday apple is going to add retina display to the 13" mbp, what do u think about the resolution?

is it going to be 1280x800 retinized? or just like the 15" mbp?

i'll be pissed off if the screen has a glorified 1280x800 retinized because it will have a screen real estate as the same as the current 13" mbp which sucks so bad.

anyway, when u set the resolution in 15" rmbp to have more space than retina, is it going to be a little bit blurry like u use 1280x800 on the 13" macbook aor which has 1440x900? or is it going to be as sharp as the 17" mbp?

sorry if you guys confused by my bad english.

My guess is 2560x1600. The igp can already support that resolution (external display) so I believe it's doable.

 

[Stetrain]

If they release a Retina MBP 13", it will most likely be 2560x1600. That makes it exactly twice the pixel density of the current 13" MBP display.

The default "Best for Retina" mode would then look like 1280x800 but much sharper and more detailed.

The "More Space" options on the Retina MBP look much better than simply setting a non-retina display to the wrong resolution, like your example.

People who have compared them in person say that the Retina MBP in "Looks like 1680x1050" mode looks much better in person than an actual high-res MBP with the 1680x1050 screen.

So a 13" Retina MBP set to "Looks like 1440x900" mode should also look much better than the Air's real 1440x900 display.

 

[aleni]

If they release a Retina MBP 13", it will most likely be 2560x1600. That makes it exactly twice the pixel density of the current 13" MBP display.

The default "Best for Retina" mode would then look like 1280x800 but much sharper and more detailed.

The "More Space" options on the Retina MBP look much better than simply setting a non-retina display to the wrong resolution, like your example.

People who have compared them in person say that the Retina MBP in "Looks like 1680x1050" mode looks much better in person than an actual high-res MBP with the 1680x1050 screen.

So a 13" Retina MBP set to "Looks like 1440x900" mode should also look much better than the Air's real 1440x900 display.

Thanks God for this! I thought it's gonna be blurry because i hate the screen real estate of the 1280x800.

 

[KohPhiPhi]

If they release a Retina MBP 13", it will most likely be 2560x1600. That makes it exactly twice the pixel density of the current 13" MBP display.

I agree. Chances are that it will be 2560x1600, so it'll be indeed a glorified 1280x800.

People who have compared them in person say that the Retina MBP in "Looks like 1680x1050" mode looks much better in person than an actual high-res MBP with the 1680x1050 screen.

So a 13" Retina MBP set to "Looks like 1440x900" mode should also look much better than the Air's real 1440x900 display.

This is *NOT* true. A software-scaled 1440x900 will NEVER look as crisp as a native 1440x900, no matter how super-duper retina the scaled 1440x900 is.

 

[Erko]

This is *NOT* true. A software-scaled 1440x900 will NEVER look as crisp as a native 1440x900, no matter how super-duper retina the scaled 1440x900 is.

Actually, it can. It still has more pixels per square which means more detail in theory. And since the "more workspace" modes on the retina MBP arent just different resolutions, but more of a smaller UI sizes, it can look better than a real 1440x900 screen.

 

[KohPhiPhi]

Actually, it can. It still has more pixels per square which means more detail in theory. And since the "more workspace" modes on the retina MBP arent just different resolutions, but more of a smaller UI sizes, it can look better than a real 1440x900 screen.

No, it cannot, because those pixels need to be artificially "split" since the resolution conversion is not 1-to-1, thus creating a slight blur. The software needs to convert like 5 pixels into 2, and that's not a whole-number conversion, thus the problem.

I've tested myself the artificial scaling feature in the new 15" rMBP and it works VERY well, but it's NOT as crispy as a native 1650x1050 or 1900x1200 screen.

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

Actually, it can.

No. If you use up- or downscaling algorithms, it is mathematically impossible. They are NOT lossless.

 

[Stetrain]

I agree. Chances are that it will be 2560x1600, so it'll be indeed a glorified 1280x800.



This is *NOT* true. A software-scaled 1440x900 will NEVER look as crisp as a native 1440x900, no matter how super-duper retina the scaled 1440x900 is.

A software scaled 2880x1800 (retina 1440x900) on a 2560x1600 display cannot look as good as 2880x1800 on a 2880x1800 display.

It can however show more detail than a native 1440x900 display.