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I'm addicted to emulation on the mac.

thewhitehart

thewhitehart

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Hey all,

I built up the courage to admit I'm addicted to emulating other operating systems on the mac. I'm dying to talk about my nerdcore obsession so I uploaded two YouTube videos if you'd like to watch. Nothing special, but they're my first videos so I wanted to share.

I used a number of emulators on Snow Leopard to emulate classic mac systems and other systems. My biggest challenge was getting the internet to work in the emulated operating systems, which I managed to do with all of them except the original 1984 version of Mac OS. (No networking support in the emulator Mini vMac)

Windows 3.11 was the biggest challenge. I'm running it in VirtualBox. OS 9.0.4 is very slow and unstable on Sheepshaver, but it connects. Another challenge was getting TCP/IP to install on the IIGS GS/OS under Sweet16. I managed to get a working Telnet connection, but there is no free or shareware browser currently out for the IIGS. My favorite is OS 7.5.5 under Basilisk II. It runs very very smoothly with the iCab web browser.

Thanks for watching. You can even catch Microsoft Bob at the end of one of them!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=405OnJw2FHo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anRLzAa9FDg
 
I emulated Mac OS 7.5.5 on my PSP with Basalisk II, was actually really cool :D

I must admit, I'd very much like to use OS 9 on something, though! Might get a iMac G3 for that at some point.
 
It's funny I forgot how awful Windows 3.1 was and how much superior System 7.1 was to it. I find it amazing that Windows ever even made it. Before Windows 95 it was pretty useless. Most any game or program I had back then was DOS only. I would only go into Windows to screw around with but could never find any use for it.

Then I got a IIvx running System 7.1 and did not own a Windows PC again until 12 years later. Though I did occasionally use Windows 95 and 98 at work.
 
velocityg4 said:
It's funny I forgot how awful Windows 3.1 was and how much superior System 7.1 was to it. I find it amazing that Windows ever even made it. Before Windows 95 it was pretty useless. Most any game or program I had back then was DOS only. I would only go into Windows to screw around with but could never find any use for it.

Then I got a IIvx running System 7.1 and did not own a Windows PC again until 12 years later. Though I did occasionally use Windows 95 and 98 at work.
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Why did Windows make it? It must of been the genius ad campaign! :p

I watched a very old documentary recently that had computers also running some sort of old Windows... Yeah, horrible!
 
Nice videos and great work! I must say though that your choice of music leaves something to be desired.... :eek:
 
Dear god why would you want to emulate anything before mac os x?

98, 2000, XP, and windows 7 are microsofts only successful OS's (as far as I am concerned).

Mac os X is the only thing I would ever use on a mac.
 
Zombie Acorn said:
Dear god why would you want to emulate anything before mac os x?

98, 2000, XP, and windows 7 are microsofts only successful OS's (as far as I am concerned).

Mac os X is the only thing I would ever use on a mac.
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I use VMware for xp, that way i can take my mac to work and show how awesome it is!

Wow thats neet, how did you get Basilisk II working under SL? Mine dies constantly.
 
toolbox said:
I use VMware for xp, that way i can take my mac to work and show how awesome it is!

Wow thats neet, how did you get Basilisk II working under SL? Mine dies constantly.
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I didn't have many problems getting Basilisk II running. What ROM file do you use? Could that be the issue?

The toughest thing about emulation in Snow Leopard is that Snow Leopard no longer allows Disk Image to format in old HFS. Luckily my OS 7.5.5 boot disk was created a while ago. In order to install applications on GS/OS, which lacks a unix shared folder like Basilisk II and Sheepshaver, I had to drag files into the shared unix folder in Basilisk II, drag them to my OS 7.5.5 HFS image, and load that image into the Sweet16 emulator.

Lack of HFS support in Snow Leopard has been a real pain in the neck. Thanks for watching my videos - if you need anymore help with Basilisk II please ask me.
 
I used to emulate the ti99 way back when I had OS9 just to play games, Ive used Virtual PC and Q to run Windows and Debian for ***** and giggiles. occasionally I'll find something interesting in Dos and run it on DosBox.
 
Zombie Acorn said:
Dear god why would you want to emulate anything before mac os x?

98, 2000, XP, and windows 7 are microsofts only successful OS's (as far as I am concerned).

Mac os X is the only thing I would ever use on a mac.
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I agree - I don't use them, really. I have no classic apps I need. It's just a nerdy obsession :D I found it fun and challenging to get internet up and running, especially on Windows 3.11, which had no native TCP/IP stack in the version of the disks I used. I was thrilled to get GS/OS on the Apple IIGS running TCP/IP, despite I could only run Telnet.

Sheepshaver is particularly unstable on intel macs because it is emulating PowerPC code rather than executing it natively.

My next hope is that someone will build an emulator that emulates an uthernet card (yeah, uthernet) for the original Apple II or //e . I want to use the Contiki Operating System to connect to the web. The operating system allows actual hardware Apple IIs to connect to the web.
 
Well, it's impressive to be able to do it, but I am left wondering...WHY?

Honestly, System 7 was the best on the market for a while, but it's got no real use today...OS9 was just crap.
 
sysiphus said:
Well, it's impressive to be able to do it, but I am left wondering...WHY?

Honestly, System 7 was the best on the market for a while, but it's got no real use today...OS9 was just crap.
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agreed OS9 was horrible I actually preferred the ti99 to it sadly LOL
 
velocityg4 said:
It's funny I forgot how awful Windows 3.1 was and how much superior System 7.1 was to it. I find it amazing that Windows ever even made it. Before Windows 95 it was pretty useless. Most any game or program I had back then was DOS only. I would only go into Windows to screw around with but could never find any use for it.
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I thought MS Office was already pretty useful at version 4 or whatever was around in the later Win 3.1 days -- it at least loosely had most of the features I expected in WYSIWYG office software I had on my Amiga and without it using a PC would've been completely awful -- WordPerfect was powerful in DOS but it was also a PITA.
 
thewhitehart said:
I didn't have many problems getting Basilisk II running. What ROM file do you use? Could that be the issue?
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Unless it's the version i have, were did you get yours from? The Rom is from a quadra 605 (which i own) But i can't boot it anymore because i have no screen.


I just bought a copy of os 8 of ebay to muck around with so pretty keen to get it running, or 7.5.6
 
sysiphus said:
Well, it's impressive to be able to do it, but I am left wondering...WHY?

Honestly, System 7 was the best on the market for a while, but it's got no real use today...OS9 was just crap.
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Really, I liked OS 9. What I hated was 8 as it did not seem really any different that 7.6.1. Of course 9 really was not much different from 8.

Here is something I have been wondering for a while. Why are we not using Mac OS XI now. I would whole heartily say that the differences between 10.0 and 10.6 are far greater than 8.6 and 9.0.
 
I had OpenStep installed under VMWare for a bit. It was just an image file so I was not able to do to much with it. I could get an internet connection, but there was no browser or any other program that would allow me to use the connection. It was fun though, running the OS that became OS X.
 
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