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Was not on the Apple website for a long time and i just saw they announced the iMACpro with upto 18 cores. I think it will be available in December. Did not see any thread about it on this forum. So my question is how will it compare speed wise for editing purposes (just full HD) compared to the present maxed out 27 inch iMAC ? I guess the MACpro will be also update soon after the iMACpro will be available else there is no market anymore for the MACro.
 
Was not on the Apple website for a long time and i just saw they announced the iMACpro with upto 18 cores. I think it will be available in December.

https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/imac-pro/

I'm sure it will be substantially faster even for "just" HD video - but at $5000 for the 8-core version (and if you need to know the price of the 18 core model you can't afford it) you'll need a strong business case to justify extra cost vs. time saved.

...and, yes, the current Mac Pro is "dead product walking" and should only be bought if you really understand what you are getting. Apple have promised a new "modular" Mac Pro, but while some of the more optimistic speculation going around may be right, the only solid information is "not this year", the the only thing that we know "modular" means is "no built-in display" and that it won't have the "triangle-in-a-cylinder' design that dead-ended the current Mac Pro.
 
A pity you answer in such a lofty way !!! I never mentioned something about price. Sounds like you are frustrated or jelaous you can not afford it yourself. Don't project it onto other people. Regering "just HD", for my purposes I don't need 4k.

https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/imac-pro/

I'm sure it will be substantially faster even for "just" HD video - but at $5000 for the 8-core version (and if you need to know the price of the 18 core model you can't afford it) you'll need a strong business case to justify extra cost vs. time saved.

...and, yes, the current Mac Pro is "dead product walking" and should only be bought if you really understand what you are getting. Apple have promised a new "modular" Mac Pro, but while some of the more optimistic speculation going around may be right, the only solid information is "not this year", the the only thing that we know "modular" means is "no built-in display" and that it won't have the "triangle-in-a-cylinder' design that dead-ended the current Mac Pro.
 
I think the iMac Pro will be a good value at it’s price point considering what it includes. You get server class hardware with Xeon processors, ECC ram, a Radeon Pro Vega GPU, and a great 5K display. It’ll do anything faster than the current iMac, but you’ll have to consider if you’ll greatly benefit from that speed increase. It’ll be an amazing machine for professionals and students who need the hardware for their workload.
 
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I think considering the price of a maxed out 27" 5K iMac it might be value at a specific price point for those that need all that power. We don't know everything about he iMac Pro yet, what was shown at WWDC was an early teaser, there are things like the secure enclave that Apple haven't talked about, does that mean there will be Touch ID?

The only question i have regarding the current 5K iMac's is if iTunes are now being updated to 4K with HDR content, does that mean the 5K iMac's will support it? currently Netflix 4K programming isn't available on the new iMac's which is a shame.
 
Sounds like you are frustrated or jelaous you can not afford it yourself. Don't project it onto other people.

All I can imagine is that you haven't previously encountered the common phrase "if you need to ask the price you can't afford it" (meaning: "it is probably going to be very expensive") and took it personally. It certainly wasn't meant that way.

For what its worth: yes, I could afford one - but nothing I would do with it (including sometimes processing HD video) would justify the cost.
 
A pity you answer in such a lofty way !!! I never mentioned something about price. Sounds like you are frustrated or jelaous you can not afford it yourself. Don't project it onto other people. Regering "just HD", for my purposes I don't need 4k.
Wow. You're such an unbelievable jerk. Clearly English isn't your first language, so any misunderstandings of the use of subtlety and sarcasm by you could easily be forgiven. But you're just being a jerk, and it doesn't matter what language is native to you.
 
I think considering the price of a maxed out 27" 5K iMac it might be value at a specific price point for those that need all that power. We don't know everything about he iMac Pro yet, what was shown at WWDC was an early teaser, there are things like the secure enclave that Apple haven't talked about, does that mean there will be Touch ID?

The only question i have regarding the current 5K iMac's is if iTunes are now being updated to 4K with HDR content, does that mean the 5K iMac's will support it? currently Netflix 4K programming isn't available on the new iMac's which is a shame.

I want to know more about the iMac Pro too, such as if the Vega GPUs have ECC memory and are like the workstation class WX 8100 (probably the 56 cu version) and WX 9100 (64 cu version) or if they have non-ECC memory and are more similar to the consumer class RX Vega which wouldn’t be as good a value. One thing we can look at to get a hint are the device IDs in the AMDRadeonX5000.kext driver. The device IDs for the workstation cards are missing in the latest 10.13 beta (6868 & 6861) but contains the device IDs for the consumer cards (687F), the Founders Edition (6863), plus a few others for unknown cards so perhaps the GPUs for the iMac Pro have the consumer or FE ID, or they are custom and have unique IDs.
 
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It's likely macOS High Sierra will have an update before the iMac Pro ships that tells us more about it. For now, I wouldn't speculate on anything but the shape & color of the case... everything else can change.
 
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Has anything been said about the 4 MICROPHONES?

I know it's an "icing on the cake" detail, but I am curious why they did 4 and what that might be engineered to help.

Are those mics going to attempt to make the iMac Pro into a pro-level recording device or something? I'm just lost on that detail.

I assume the iMac Pro will be a noisy unit due to the airflow they built into the unit. That would make such extravagance kind of irrelevant.

Anyone use one of these Pros while they were on display a few months back, or were any articles or blogs written about these issues?
 
Has anything been said about the 4 MICROPHONES?

I know it's an "icing on the cake" detail, but I am curious why they did 4 and what that might be engineered to help.

Are those mics going to attempt to make the iMac Pro into a pro-level recording device or something? I'm just lost on that detail.

I assume the iMac Pro will be a noisy unit due to the airflow they built into the unit. That would make such extravagance kind of irrelevant.

Anyone use one of these Pros while they were on display a few months back, or were any articles or blogs written about these issues?

As far as I'm aware, Lesser, they were just on display as inanimate objects - none were running.
 
Here we go Gizmo !

Wow. You're such an unbelievable jerk. Clearly English isn't your first language, so any misunderstandings of the use of subtlety and sarcasm by you could easily be forgiven. But you're just being a jerk, and it doesn't matter what language is native to you.
 
A pity you answer in such a lofty way !!! I never mentioned something about price. Sounds like you are frustrated or jelaous you can not afford it yourself. Don't project it onto other people. Regering "just HD", for my purposes I don't need 4k.

so do you just look for opportunities to feel butthurt or perhaps score internet brag points?

there is little value in a professional system which you cannot upgrade as technology permits so I myself see little to no value in proposed iMac Pro offerings. To be honest I believe it was only created because Apple was shamed into getting off their butts with the Mac Pro line. It is nothing more than a photoshop, if it were certainly a respected review site would have been allowed to at least play with it.

finally, why would anyone want so much heat in such a small area, especially next to a screen?
 
I got to see it at WWDC, at the time they had the fans running at max. Not sure if it was intentional or a heating issue.

Has anything been said about the 4 MICROPHONES?

I know it's an "icing on the cake" detail, but I am curious why they did 4 and what that might be engineered to help.

Are those mics going to attempt to make the iMac Pro into a pro-level recording device or something? I'm just lost on that detail.

I assume the iMac Pro will be a noisy unit due to the airflow they built into the unit. That would make such extravagance kind of irrelevant.

Anyone use one of these Pros while they were on display a few months back, or were any articles or blogs written about these issues?
 
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I got to see it at WWDC, at the time they had the fans running at max. Not sure if it was intentional or a heating issue.

Did it sound louder than the current iMac, or do you not really know? I'd rather they were optimised to keep the system cool, regardless of noise, but I'm still interested, as this will no doubt make the headlines over Christmas.
 
Did it sound louder than the current iMac, or do you not really know? I'd rather they were optimised to keep the system cool, regardless of noise, but I'm still interested, as this will no doubt make the headlines over Christmas.

Prob no louder than the highest fan speed of the current iMac. It was definitely pretty hot, hoping that it has been optimized better since then.
 
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Prob no louder than the highest fan speed of the current iMac. It was definitely pretty hot, hoping that it has been optimized better since then.

Thanks for the update... getting tired of waiting for the iMac Pro information that we've all signed up for.... hoping once the iPhone X is out there, Apple will start to take pre-orders for the iMac Pro.
 
Thanks for the update... getting tired of waiting for the iMac Pro information that we've all signed up for.... hoping once the iPhone X is out there, Apple will start to take pre-orders for the iMac Pro.

December is what Apple said at WWDC in June.
 
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