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iMessage acting odd after Mojave update

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sultanoflondon

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Hi all,

After updating to macOS Mojave, my iMessage has been acting quite odd. It used to be perfectly synced with my iPhone & what I used to send on one device would come up on the other. Whatever was read on one device would also be read on the other & the notification vanish.

However now, any iMessage that I send from my Mac doesn't deliver & any iMessage that I send from my iPhone appears as an unread message on my Mac. Whilst the iPhone is still working perfectly, the Mac has malfunctioned.

Any thoughts? I haven't changed iMac preferences at all & I've done a shallow Google search & tried all the troubleshooting I could find.

Thank you!
 
log out of iCloud and back in, toggle the sync with iCloud option on and off in iMessage settings. Make sure all the appropriate sources are selected in the "you can be reached at field". have new conversations start from you iCloud email.
 
Bornee35 said:
log out of iCloud and back in, toggle the sync with iCloud option on and off in iMessage settings. Make sure all the appropriate sources are selected in the "you can be reached at field". have new conversations start from you iCloud email.
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didn't work, unfortunately...

Thank you for your reply though!
 
yeah ive seen this. comes and goes. a few resets on both devices can help. mine disappeared after a few days.
 
Like I’ve said a hundred times since 2012, I miss when Apple products used to just work.
 
Tozovac said:
Like I’ve said a hundred times since 2012, I miss when Apple products used to just work.
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maybe you're doing something wrong. my apple devices (macbook, macbook pro, iphone) are doing really well (and all on the beta program). sure, there are issues (mostly beta-related, but hey; they're betas).

what year btw was it when 'apple products used to work'? o_O
 
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fisherking said:
maybe you're doing something wrong. my apple devices (macbook, macbook pro, iphone) are doing really well (and all on the beta program). sure, there are issues (mostly beta-related, but hey; they're betas).

what year btw was it when 'apple products used to work'? o_O
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Ha! Well before ~2012 or 2013 since starting with a Mac Pro and Cinema Display in 2006, I never needed to Google how to do something on an Apple or troubleshoot something wrong or confusing with OS X. In fact, I discovered Macrumors only when googling to find out if I was the only one who detested abominations like ios7, iTunes 12, the ios7 or 8 podcast app, etc. My Mac experience from 2005 to 2012 was rather rosie and pie in the sky. :)

As far as doing something wrong, all I can think of is maybe I wasn’t clutching enough dongles as good luck charms when I did a fresh install of Sierra onto my MacBook Air? Or maybe my desk area was too colorful and not monochromatic enough to appeal to the mystical sensibilities of sir Jonathan Ive as electrons swirled within my MBA that evening and Mavericks’ awesome lickable stoplight buttons were replaced with “fisher price my first computer style” stoplight buttons?
 
Tozovac said:
Ha! Well before ~2012 or 2013 since starting with a Mac Pro and Cinema Display in 2006, I never needed to Google how to do something on an Apple or troubleshoot something wrong or confusing with OS X. In fact, I discovered Macrumors only when googling to find out if I was the only one who detested abominations like ios7, iTunes 12, the ios7 or 8 podcast app, etc. My Mac experience from 2005 to 2012 was rather rosie and pie in the sky. :)

As far as doing something wrong, all I can think of is maybe I wasn’t clutching enough dongles as good luck charms when I did a fresh install of Sierra onto my MacBook Air? Or maybe my desk area was too colorful and not monochromatic enough to appeal to the mystical sensibilities of sir Jonathan Ive as electrons swirled within my MBA that evening and Mavericks’ awesome lickable stoplight buttons were replaced with “fisher price my first computer style” stoplight buttons?
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ah, got it. you're talking about your own experiences, not making general statements as if you were speaking for everyone. always important to seperate 'what i think' with what 'is'.
 
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ah, got it. you're talking about your own experiences, not making general statements as if you were speaking for everyone. always important to seperate 'what i think' with what 'is'.
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Well, not completely entirely so fast here — Possibly any complaint can be measured against personal tolerance and experience level ultimately, but, I don’t recall as many valid complaints by other Mac fans over usability issues back then vs now...things like questionable MacBook Pro keyboards, poor expandability from going so integrated, and continued controversy over headphone jacks and USB ports as a result of this incessant quest for thinness.... Too often an Apple device today has at least one usability Hangul while there may have been ...no noticeable hang ups for years! I’d say the biggest and only usability hangup I had from 2005 to 2012 was the lack of dedicated delete and page up/down keys. Sure there was Apple maps and gripes over losing a floppy drive over time, but those felt like outliers between spans of greatness, and complaints over those went away relatively quickly. I’m hating no headphone jack as much as 2 years ago. Back 6 years ago, “it just works” was a thing you’d hear regularly in regards to Apple products, and I just can’t say the same is still true now. I never hear or feel “it just works” in regards to Apple hardware / software now, even if many might feel Apple products have the same or more “it just works”-ness now as before. Now of course, the competition has caught up some, with Microsoft trying hard to look like Apple (where Apple iOS/OSX itself tried to start looking like the windows phone starting around six years ago), but as much I DETEST the flat design and overall uIX of windows 10, I can’t say Sierra so far feels as great as OS X Lion or whatever circa-2005 felt vs Windows XP, and I can honestly say I read as many gripes as votes of tolerance over Apple products nowadays, especially around here, a freaking Mac fan site. Ymmv.
 
nothing's a straight line; apple has, like all tech companies, good moments, and bad moments. but the scale of things has changed; how many people on the planet have an apple device? whatever that number is, it's significantly greater than it was 10, 15 years ago. so some people are happy, some are not. one person buys a macbook and has a stellar experience; someone else buys the same model, and has a bad time.

absolutes are dangerous, because they assume that we're all having the same experience. where we're not, that's important. in which case, what you think & feel ultimately reflects... what you think & feel. nothing more and nothing less.
 
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nothing's a straight line; apple has, like all tech companies, good moments, and bad moments. but the scale of things has changed; how many people on the planet have an apple device? whatever that number is, it's significantly greater than it was 10, 15 years ago. so some people are happy, some are not. one person buys a macbook and has a stellar experience; someone else buys the same model, and has a bad time.

absolutes are dangerous, because they assume that we're all having the same experience. where we're not, that's important. in which case, what you think & feel ultimately reflects... what you think & feel. nothing more and nothing less.
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But speaking in general terms, I still contend “it just works” is a thing of the past and not due to my own personal belief. Steve used to say it, but when was the last time you heard anybody from Apple say it and them you felt deep down that you agreed. That’s the thing, averaging things out, Apple products no longer feel like “it just works” like it used to and I miss that.

Google “Apple it just works” and the results are quite interesting.

Perhaps the only way I’d honestly feel like saying “it just works” again is if I went with android and Microsoft for a year or two, to wipe the slate clean. Apple is still a better option and then those two, but Apple is no longer the unquestionably only option for me as it was from 2005-2012 (until ios7).

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“It just works."

This is the phrase that Steve Jobs trotted out year after year to describe products or services that he was unveiling. The phrase expressed what Apple was all about -- selling technology that solved problems with a minimum of fuss and effort on the part of the owner.

Well, Steve is now long gone, and so it the ethos of "it just works."

https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-seems-to-have-forgotten-about-the-whole-it-just-works-thing/

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Late Apple CEO Steve Jobs used to use that phrase a lot to explain why consumers seemed to prefer Apple products. However, since Cook took the reins at Apple, the phrase has fallen out of fashion with company officials.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tim-cook-brings-back-it-just-works-in-interview-with-cnbc-2019-1
 
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But speaking in general terms, I still contend “it just works” is a thing of the past and not due to my own personal belief.
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yes, you still contend... it's still your point-of-view, not a 'fact', but an opinion... which you're certainly entitled to.
 
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yes, you still contend... it's still your point-of-view, not a 'fact', but an opinion... which you're certainly entitled to.
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Yup. Just me and many others. :) Just like there was Steve and me and many others before who felt things just worked.
 
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Yup. Just me and many others. :) Just like there was Steve and me and many others before who felt things just worked.
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right. and when you say 'many'... what percentage of apple device users do you mean? 1%? 80%? the answer is... you don't know; no one does. no ones polled every one of those people.

so if you're going by 'posts on a forum', that's... a tiny percentage of actual users. most people live 'real' lives, and don't (like you, and me lol) live on forums like this, to rant on and on (am doing that too!) about pointless subjects.
 
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right. and when you say 'many'... what percentage of apple device users do you mean? 1%? 80%? the answer is... you don't know; no one does. no ones polled every one of those people.

so if you're going by 'posts on a forum', that's... a tiny percentage of actual users. most people live 'real' lives, and don't (like you, and me lol) live on forums like this, to rant on and on (am doing that too!) about pointless subjects.
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I tried to distill it down to: ”It just works” came from Apple execs and others generally much more often before them now. A couple Google searches will find many recent articles about how it just works doesn’t seem to apply now like it used to. Funny, the only Google search I found about it just working now was about how somebody defected from android/Google. Try a search like I mentioned and it should come up. I think that’s pretty hard to refute. Sure, it’s all opinions now just like it was opinions then. But how those opinions were expressed seemed completely different now versus then. That’s all I’m trying to say
 
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I tried to distill it down to: ”It just works” came from Apple execs and others generally much more often before them now. A couple Google searches will find many recent articles about how it just works doesn’t seem to apply now like it used to. Funny, the only Google search I found about it just working now was about how somebody defected from android/Google. Try a search like I mentioned and it should come up. I think that’s pretty hard to refute. Sure, it’s all opinions now just like it was opinions then. But how those opinions were expressed seemed completely different now versus then. That’s all I’m trying to say
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and that's all you are saying. again, not everyone talks about their mac/iphone/tv/toaster online; most people google for help, but don't post about their day-to-day lives.

also, there are so many more people with smartphones, for example, then there were 10 years ago. the scale has changed.

so, again, anecdotal 'evidence' & online posts don't sum up the real world, they just give us a picture of the opinions and experiences of the people who do post online. meanwhile, in the real world, most people just use their devices, they don't argue about 'dark mode' or whether mojave is better than high sierra... or whether apple 'isn't what it once was'.

the real world is more real, if less entertaining, than the one online.
 
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and that's all you are saying. again, not everyone talks about their mac/iphone/tv/toaster online; most people google for help, but don't post about their day-to-day lives.

also, there are so many more people with smartphones, for example, then there were 10 years ago. the scale has changed.

so, again, anecdotal 'evidence' & online posts don't sum up the real world, they just give us a picture of the opinions and experiences of the people who do post online. meanwhile, in the real world, most people just use their devices, they don't argue about 'dark mode' or whether mojave is better than high sierra... or whether apple 'isn't what it once was'.

the real world is more real, if less entertaining, than the one online.
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The main point again is though fewer appearances and uttering of “it just works” now vs then, by Apple folk online (since I never encounter them personally) and by folk I see in person. The first part should be hard to refute.

My opinion, though, is that you don’t hear Tim or Apple folks say it as often, because it’s just not true and defendable anymore. That’s why it was such a noticeable thing recently. It stood out and eyebrows were rightfully raised, rather than be accepted as a matter of fact like was the case when Steve uttered it back 7-15 years ago when Apple was more focused on good function instead of fashion.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tim-cook-brings-back-it-just-works-in-interview-with-cnbc-2019-1

Now, compared to Google, android, windows, I feel Apple just works better. But Apple things don’t “it just works” overall as well like they once did in my opinion. :)
 
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