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Intel Halts 3.0 GHz P4 Shipments

This quote seems odd: "There's still no word yet from Intel as to what we're planning to do," the Dell spokesman said.

Are they robots, taking their orders directly from Intel?
 
Originally posted by bousozoku

Are they robots, taking their orders directly from Intel?
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Without Intel...... Dell are nothing..... Mwhahahahaha :p :p :p
 
Originally posted by iGAV
Without Intel...... Dell are nothing..... Mwhahahahaha :p :p :p
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A computer vendor at the mercy of a processor supplier that doesn't meet expectations?

Mr. Dell, welcome to Mr. Jobs' world. All the problems, none of the cool reality distortion field stuff....
 
Things couldn't be better for Apple. With a glitch in intel's newest processor Apple may be able to take the cake with the 970. Assuming it's above the hype.
 
Originally posted by bousozoku
This quote seems odd: "There's still no word yet from Intel as to what we're planning to do," the Dell spokesman said.

Are they robots, taking their orders directly from Intel?
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The glitch affects the 800MHZ FSB P4's, not any current CPUs. I think what they're waiting for from Intel is what to do with the defective CPUs they have already received.
 
Originally posted by Totalshock
A computer vendor at the mercy of a processor supplier that doesn't meet expectations?

Mr. Dell, welcome to Mr. Jobs' world. All the problems, none of the cool reality distortion field stuff....
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:p :p :p
 
How did that Apple commercial go??? Oh yeah..... Burn Baby Burn! :p

I haven't liked Intel for years even before I switched to Mac. AMD offers way more Bang for the buck, IMHO. (Since the Athlon line...)

(.....Waiting for the Intel loyalists to rise up against me.... :D)
 
And yet, even today some people still want Apple to move to Intel... apparently people get dropped on their heads all the time.
 
You know, technically, it would be possible to give apple near 100% marketshare if we popped the tires of all the intel+amd delivery trucks...;)
 
I still find it interesting that Intel is pushing their 32-bit processors faster while AMD is taking the next step to 64-bit desktop computing.
 
Why is everyone so anti-Intel? They make ultra-fast chips, just
because they are responsible for lower mac sales doesn't mean
they are a bad company or anything... Could someone fill me
in on why they are so evil?
 
Hmmm.. Good question...

Originally posted by scem0
Why is everyone so anti-Intel? They make ultra-fast chips, just
because they are responsible for lower mac sales doesn't mean
they are a bad company or anything... Could someone fill me
in on why they are so evil?
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It's all pretty scientific really, Scem0:

Intel is pronounced "In TELL"
Devil is pronounced "De VELL"

Now drink a few cases of Stoli and In TELL sounds like De VELL.

;)

Come to think of it, "De VELL" also begins to sound like "Dell" and vice versa.

:D
 
Originally posted by Stelliform (.....Waiting for the Intel loyalists to rise up against me.... :D)
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:totally doubts any such thing happening:

Originally posted by GeneR
It's all pretty scientific really, Scem0:

Intel is pronounced "In TELL"
Devil is pronounced "De VELL"

Now drink a few cases of Stoli and In TELL sounds like De VELL.

;)

Come to think of it, "De VELL" also begins to sound like "Dell" and vice versa.

:D
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I'm going to agree to that gibberish. :D

Originally posted by scem0
Why is everyone so anti-Intel? They make ultra-fast chips, just
because they are responsible for lower mac sales doesn't mean
they are a bad company or anything... Could someone fill me
in on why they are so evil?
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Well intel is smart by making their chips clock speed way high but innovation quite low. The most promising thing they did was hyper-threading. that is it.
People think
Intel = M$
Intel is the mail supplier to PC's and basically anything PC will get bashed on this board...
 
I am not fond of Intel for many reasons. A few years ago they announced that Moore's Law had finally failed. When it was really just Intel had stopped innovating and they couldn't leep up with Moore's law. AMD picked up the slack and made faster chips. Intels responce was to bascially overclock old designs. I still think AMD has a stronger chip than Intel.

Also Intel employs a few of M$'s tricks for bullying smaller companies.. . .
 
Originally posted by dethl
I still find it interesting that Intel is pushing their 32-bit processors faster while AMD is taking the next step to 64-bit desktop computing.
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The benchmarks are out. The Clawhammer (or athlon64 as they want to call it), sucks compared to the P4. They're barely 5% faster than Athlon XPs at the same clock speed.

Bad news for AMD
 
I'll be running Intel based 1U servers soon. AMD processors are very hard to cool, if the fan fails the whole CPU and possibly the motherboard dies with it. With the P4 it would just clock down until a safe tempature is reached so a slow CPU vs. a dead CPU is a bigger deal to me than saving $50 and going with AMD. The owner of Sprynex, who I'll be colocating my equipment with, puts extra fans in his cabnits pointed at AMD servers just to keep them from overheating. Intel also makes consistantly better chipsets than anything on the AMD side but that's just my opinion.

Better performance... come on, no one I've met that's into computers will seriously stand by the 5% performance increase in favor of either actually making a difference in the applications you'll run on the machine. Think real world performance -- no real difference between to two. Both processors aren't very exciting, I still think the G4 is on the top of my list in "cool factor" for how it gets things done. Fast enough for me, am I all alone?

I beg to differ on the better bang for the buck on the AMD side but it really doesn't matter, PC's suck :D

Things couldn't be better for Apple. With a glitch in intel's newest processor Apple may be able to take the cake with the 970. Assuming it's above the hype.
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Cheapest Power Mac 970: $1,600

Cheapest P4 System: under $1,000?

Not with Apple's pricing, I learned how to use Photoshop on Pentium III machines with 512Mb RAM and it worked just fine. Most people don't need an 970 powered computer. At least not enough to take the cake.
 
Originally posted by Stelliform
How did that Apple commercial go??? Oh yeah..... Burn Baby Burn! :p

I haven't liked Intel for years even before I switched to Mac. AMD offers way more Bang for the buck, IMHO. (Since the Athlon line...)

(.....Waiting for the Intel loyalists to rise up against me.... :D)
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If I could play devils advocate here, AMD used to provide more "bang for the buck", but now intel is slashing prices and AMD is only cheaper on the very low end (Athlon XP 1x00)
 
AMD doesn't have a heating problem, if I were to get (another) PC I would get an AMD, AMD doesn't have problems with heating, if so why can I overclock them so much?

My friend overclocked his like really high with no problems at all.
 
In a 1U chassis they do, I'm not arguing against using one in a desktop. I don't have any solid evidence other than personal experience. I've sold a motherboard and an Athlon XP 2100+ because I couldn't keep the CPU from overheating in a 1U chassis with good cooling. My chassis was a Compucase RA160 and the HSF's I tried were 1U models, all copper, from Thermaltake, Dynatron, and CoolJag. I've heard good things about Dynatron's "blower" style HSF and AMD processors but I didn't try them.

For a desktop or 2U and above server AMD is fine but in a 1U server, AMD has issues with heat.
 
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