Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Populus

macrumors 604
Original poster
Aug 24, 2012
6,579
9,196
Spain, Europe
Hi!

I’m debating wether installing 18.4.1 before Apple stops signing it today or tomorrow, or going straight into 18.5

There are bug complaints about both versions, but I’m not sure if 18.5 introduces more bugs than it solves. Also, users like @Reverend Benny report lower network speeds overall on 18.5

I don’t use CarPlay, I don’t use Apple Inteligence on my iPhone (I do on my iPad tho)

What would you do? If you’ve tried both versions, which one is snappier or less buggy?

Thank you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reverend Benny
Hi!

I’m debating wether installing 18.4.1 before Apple stops signing it today or tomorrow, or going straight into 18.5

There are bug complaints about both versions, but I’m not sure if 18.5 introduces more bugs than it solves. Also, users like @Reverend Benny report lower network speeds overall on 18.5

I don’t use CarPlay, I don’t use Apple Inteligence on my iPhone (I do on my iPad tho)

What would you do? If you’ve tried both versions, which one is snappier or less buggy?

Thank you.
Can't remember what phone you do have, but have around 500+ people with iPhone 14, a few SE2 and SE3 and 16 and 16e (i use 14 as a workphone) and they all seem to be working fine. My 16 pro was during my regular trainride to work a bit shifty when it came to cellular performance, never seen it cling on to 3G or 4G that much. A few apps has been a bit slow too, but not sure its the apps that are in need of an update. Its not crazy bad but its noticable in some apps. The app that I can notice it on the most is Reedit, other apps seem to be working fine. Whatsapp has been a bit funny when it comes to FaceID, once in a while it wants be to use passcode while other apps that use FaceID are fine.

Have only used 18.4.1 before on this new 16P on my 13P 18.4.1 was brilliant in terms of battery life. Haven't tried 18.5 on it.

I'd say go for 18.5. In terms of battery life there is no noticeble difference on my 14 or 16P between 18.4.1 and 18.5
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Populus
I would install 18.4.1 on my iPhone. The problem is that when I downloaded the IPSW through Finder, it also downloaded a modem update that it sat on a separate folder.

And now, if I want to install the 18.4.1 IPSW, I don’t know if the modem update will be installed automatically or, because it’s on a different folder inside Library > iTunes > iTunes Media, I have to install it as well through Finder, either before or after installing the IPSW…

Does anyone know about this procedure?
 
The number of security fixes in 18.4 and 18.5 was quite high. I would not recommend anyone stay on an older version unless they have to for some reason.
Yeah, I think nobody is talking about that on this thread -yet-. I know both 18.4.1 and 18.5 have many security fixes, especially 18.4.1 that involve vulnerabilities already exploited.

This thread is about comparing both 18.4.1 and 18.5 performance to install wether one or the other, before Apple stops signing 18.4.1
 
Yeah, I think nobody is talking about that on this thread -yet-. I know both 18.4.1 and 18.5 have many security fixes, especially 18.4.1 that involve vulnerabilities already exploited.

This thread is about comparing both 18.4.1 and 18.5 performance to install wether one or the other, before Apple stops signing 18.4.1

Huh? Okay. It sounds like you don't want a recommendation if you are dismissing security so easily.


Here's the recommendation:

18.5 if you want to use your phone to do things without being compromised.
18.4.1 if you enjoy being pwned.
 
18.4.1 is no longer being signed.
Yep, it seems that now there’s no longer the choice. It’s 18.5 or nothing. So I’ll have to update and cross my fingers to not have performance issues, lag, slow connectivity or signal loss…
Huh? Okay. It sounds like you don't want a recommendation if you are dismissing security so easily.


Here's the recommendation:

18.5 if you want to use your phone to do things without being compromised.
18.4.1 if you enjoy being pwned.
I really doubt one can be pwned by using a version released less than a month ago with lots of security patches. If 18.5 is so so important security-wise, then the people on 18.4.1 days before 18.5 was released were in danger as well! What if Apple releases 18.5.1 next week with more security fixes? All of us are in danger‼️ even if we are on the latest version.

Nah, I didn’t want to sound dismissive, I know it’s convenient updating relatively often, but I’m not one of those that update each and every time. I like to decide when to do it, and for me it’s all about the balance between a not too old release (because security), but one that has proven to have a good performance and battery life. And that balance can only be achieved by reading lots of feedback and security notes. Then, I make my decision.

But now Apple has made that decision easier for me 🤷🏻‍♂️ let’s hope I don’t have much issues with it.

If Apple really wants us to update to the lates version, they should start by paying attention to the quality of their software and work on fixing bugs instead of introducing new ones. That way, most people would update without worry each time they see there’s a new version.

By the way, just like on computers (where the security is lower because of the lack of sandboxing), the main security measure is common sense, being careful with the websites that are loaded on the browser, a good Adblock, being mindful of the apps that one install (from good, reputable developers), and such. And I am quite careful with that.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.