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iOS 6 on iPad 1

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hayhay7789

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Jun 16, 2012
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Hi,

seeing as iOS 6 isn't on iPad 1, could I install the iPad 2 or 3's IPSW on my iPad? I've seen iOS 4 on a 2nd-gen iPod Touch, so this could be possible.

I've spent all day Googling this and found no results, but I'm a bad Googler anyways.

Please help and give detailed replies.
 
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iOS 4 is compatible with the 2nd gen iPod anyway.
But the iPad 1 isn't compatible with iOS 6.
Hopefully once iOS 6 comes out, someone will release a custom firmware.
Even if you try the ipad 2/3's ispw it will come up with a message saying 'the requested build isn't compatible' but give it try, if your lucky it will work but eventually crash.
 
hayhay7789 said:
Hi,

seeing as iOS 6 isn't on iPad 1, could I install the iPad 2 or 3's IPSW on my iPad? I've seen iOS 4 on a 2nd-gen iPod Touch, so this could be possible.

I've spent all day Googling this and found no results, but I'm a bad Googler anyways.

Please help and give detailed replies.
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First of all, you would have to have the UDID of the 1st gen iPad registered to an Apple Developer account before you could even attempt to try this. Assuming that the UDID is registered, the builds of iOS 6 currently available are device specific, so there is no build for the 1st generation iPad. You "might" be able to get another build to work, but not without modifying it in violation of the Apple Developer agreement, so I'd recommend against that. Just because someone got iOS4 running on a 2nd generation iPod Touch doesn't mean that you could put 6 on that iPad, because you're talking about completely different hardware in use there.
 
dmccloud said:
First of all, you would have to have the UDID of the 1st gen iPad registered to an Apple Developer account before you could even attempt to try this. Assuming that the UDID is registered, the builds of iOS 6 currently available are device specific, so there is no build for the 1st generation iPad. You "might" be able to get another build to work, but not without modifying it in violation of the Apple Developer agreement, so I'd recommend against that. Just because someone got iOS4 running on a 2nd generation iPod Touch doesn't mean that you could put 6 on that iPad, because you're talking about completely different hardware in use there.
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Okay, I get your drift. I really hope somebody comes out with a custom firmware sometime soon, I'm really anticipating this update!
 
Not good

I understand Apple's marketing tactics, and even though I am not an iPad 1st gen owner, it still makes me sad to see you guys miss out. Come on, the 3GS got it! I just hope my iPad 2 is still supported next year when iOS 7 hits.

So knows? Maybe Apple will add support at the last minute like with multitasking gestures.
 
danielceleste said:
I understand Apple's marketing tactics, and even though I am not an iPad 1st gen owner, it still makes me sad to see you guys miss out. Come on, the 3GS got it! I just hope my iPad 2 is still supported next year when iOS 7 hits.

So knows? Maybe Apple will add support at the last minute like with multitasking gestures.
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Unlike the 1st gen iPad, the 3GS is still being sold to customers, which is probably a big factor for why iOS6 support has been extended to it.
 
danielceleste said:
I understand Apple's marketing tactics, and even though I am not an iPad 1st gen owner, it still makes me sad to see you guys miss out. Come on, the 3GS got it! I just hope my iPad 2 is still supported next year when iOS 7 hits.

So knows? Maybe Apple will add support at the last minute like with multitasking gestures.
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two words: RAM deprived.

Its not a marketing ploy it really won't be able to handle it.
 
hayhay7789 said:
Okay, I get your drift. I really hope somebody comes out with a custom firmware sometime soon, I'm really anticipating this update!
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Considering the fact that no one has managed to shoe-horn a higher version of iOS on to an unsupported device before, I wouldn't hold your breath.

dmccloud said:
Unlike the 1st gen iPad, the 3GS is still being sold to customers, which is probably a big factor for why iOS6 support has been extended to it.
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100% agree.

macbook pro i5 said:
two words: RAM deprived.

Its not a marketing ploy it really won't be able to handle it.
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3GS has the same amount of RAM as the original iPad. It has more pixels to push but then again the CPU is clocked higher, not sure about the GPU though.
 
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Well the sluggishness of iOS5 at times on my gen1 iPad seems pretty apparent that the device would struggle to run iOS6.

Those of us who bought the first gen knew the consequences of doing so. 1st Gen hardware always has a shorter shelf life than later models. look at the iPhone 3gs still chugging along compared to the first 2 iPhones.

I have a new iPad on order that i should get in a week or two now anyway.
 
macbook pro i5 said:
two words: RAM deprived.

Its not a marketing ploy it really won't be able to handle it.
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It has the same amount of RAM as the 3GS, and a faster processor. They could do it, and just leave out some features.

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dmccloud said:
Unlike the 1st gen iPad, the 3GS is still being sold to customers, which is probably a big factor for why iOS6 support has been extended to it.
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That's what I meant when I said that I "understand their tactics"
 
Initially I was also disappointed that iOS 6 wasn't going to be available for my original iPad as well, but honestly, it struggles enough already with iOS 5, clearly because of available RAM issues. RAM issues for an iPad running at 1024x768 are likely going to be more significant than for an iPhone 3GS at 320x480, too.

If they do release the 7.85" iPad, it should be a really good substitute for our old iPads. Same resolution, but should be a lot more capable. Might be worthwhile to trade in my iPad 1 for one of those anyway. It had a good run.
 
Just to repeat what has been said it definitely isn't supported and getting around it would be a hacking adventure. And that said, I'm not sure why someone would want to. The iPad 1 was slow enough when it came out, let alone running a much more demanding version of iOS.
 
Xian Zhu Xuande said:
Just to repeat what has been said it definitely isn't supported and getting around it would be a hacking adventure. And that said, I'm not sure why someone would want to. The iPad 1 was slow enough when it came out, let alone running a much more demanding version of iOS.
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Isn't that true with the 3GS too?

Wasn't the 3GS released like a year before the iPad 1?
 
irDigital0l said:
Isn't that true with the 3GS too?

Wasn't the 3GS released like a year before the iPad 1?
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You know—to be honest I've forgotten the differences between the 3GS and original iPad but I recall they were somewhat similar in terms of specifications.

I also recall that I rarely actually used my original iPad because its speed frustrated me (combined with its weight). The 3GS is slowing down too based I what I've read. Maybe the difference has to do with things like powering that larger screen. Maybe it is just because the 3GS is still being sold and the original iPad is not.
 
irDigital0l said:
Isn't that true with the 3GS too?

Wasn't the 3GS released like a year before the iPad 1?
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iOS5 is clearly putting pressure on the 3GS, and the iPad One is not even part of Apple's lineup anymore, and the 3GS is probably EOL'ed once iPhone 5 drops.

Might be time for 3GS and iPad One owners to consider upgrades.
 
Xian Zhu Xuande said:
You know—to be honest I've forgotten the differences between the 3GS and original iPad but I recall they were somewhat similar in terms of specifications.

I also recall that I rarely actually used my original iPad because its speed frustrated me (combined with its weight). The 3GS is slowing down too based I what I've read. Maybe the difference has to do with things like powering that larger screen. Maybe it is just because the 3GS is still being sold and the original iPad is not.
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Yea, I'm just wondering if the 3GS is slower than the iPad why would it get iOS 6 if its just gonna slow it down?

Still being sold makes sense, but if it makes it worse...I dont see the point.
 
irDigital0l said:
Still being sold makes sense, but if it makes it worse...I dont see the point.
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In all probability it may slow it down a little (just speculation at this point) and yeah, that could be a bad thing. Hopefully Apple has already learned this lesson through past mistakes in this area.

Another possibility along the lines of continuing support for the 3GS specifically because it is still sold is that they may have devoted engineering energy specifically to keeping the experience on that device reasonable for the user.
 
I own a iPad 1 myself. Not mad about not getting iOS 6. Just not enough ram. Seems to me iPad 1 was more of apple testing the waters of the tablet market. I bet if they knew in advanced it was gonna take off like it did they would just went straight to 512 mb ram like the iPhone 4. In the mean time I just keep my 1 with iOS 5 until the 4 th gen comes out. I got mine used with 64gb for 200 bucks and it was barley used. I can't complain. The people who bought it new.. I would be a little let down about ios 6.
 
The reason why in my opinion the iPad 1 isnt updated to iOS 6 is because Apple wants the iPad 1 owners to upgrade to the New iPad.

With regards to why Apple has chosen to continue support the 3GS is because it is still sold by carriers around the world to cater to consumers with extremely tight budget, who prefers to pay almost nothing over a phone . (iPhone 3GS is sold by AT&T for $0) .
On the other hand, the iPad is already priced very reasonably FOR A TABLET for its SPECS. - You could get a new iPad at 499 and a iPad 2 100 off the new ipad at 399 . To me, its a extremely reasonable price, not to mention even some Galaxy Tab and other Android devices are priced way higher. I think that in Apple's line of iDevices, the iPad is the one priced most aggresively considering that the iPhone, way smaller than the iPad is sold at 600 adding some cellular radios at about the same specs.
This reasonable and balanced price is enough to convince many ipad 1 owners to upgrade, so why not you opt for an upgrade too? Sell your ipad 1 on ebay for a nice price of about 300 and top up another 199 for the new iPad or even 99 for the iPad 2.
 
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