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Hi,

I really don’t care about 5G, my carrier doesn’t offer it yet and I see no benefits in the near future, so, using only 4G do you think that the battery of the 12 Pro would be improved, the same or worse than the 11 Pro?
 
From Tomsguide
iPhone 12 battery test results
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Too early to tell.

As with any smartphone launch, you need to wait about a week or two before we get reliable and converging results.
 
The above video was quite useful. It looks like 5G was turned off on that video and the Iphone 12 pro still had one hour less battery life than the 11 pro. Would expect it to be worse with 5G auto or 5G enabled.

Hopefully apple can tinker some software settings to get the battery life to par w the Iphone 11 pro at least.
 
I wouldn't really trust this "test". Here the 11 Pro Max only lasts 53 minutes longer than 11 Pro. That should be way more and it is way more at AnandTech, Gsmarena, notebookcheck. These sites also say that regular 11 has better battery life than 11 Pro but here it's the other way around. Brightness levels are not the same here even if he used a meter.
 
Hi,

I really don’t care about 5G, my carrier doesn’t offer it yet and I see no benefits in the near future, so, using only 4G do you think that the battery of the 12 Pro would be improved, the same or worse than the 11 Pro?

I'm in the same situation. FYI I just posted a thread with a poll to try and capture people's experiences and some thoughts on why that Tomsguide test might either be right or wrong.

My thread and poll is here - https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...eing-improved-battery-life-vs-11-pro.2264111/
 
I can't imagine it being better than the 11 Pro, but I don't own one. Its a larger screen with a smaller battery so I don't think its going to last as long. I think the best one could hope for is that it gets close to the 11 Pro in terms of battery life but no way its surpassing it.
With 4G only mode, you’ll get as good or better battery by 30-60 min in all likelihood.
Where are you getting that information from? No chance you are getting 30-60 minutes more battery.
 
I can't imagine it being better than the 11 Pro, but I don't own one. Its a larger screen with a smaller battery so I don't think its going to last as long. I think the best one could hope for is that it gets close to the 11 Pro in terms of battery life but no way its surpassing it.

Where are you getting that information from? No chance you are getting 30-60 minutes more battery. i

It’s literally in the Tom’s Guide test when they turn 5G off and go down to 4G. iPhone 11 Pro, 10h24m; iPhone 12 Pro-4G, 11h24m.


Another data point MacWorld ran a geek bench battery test which doesn’t use cellular data. “In our tests, which involve setting the display at a constant brightness of 200 nits (roughly halfway on these phones) and running the Geekbench 4 battery life benchmark until the phone dies, the iPhone 12 Pro actually lasted about 50 minutes longer than the iPhone 11 Pro. We should note that our battery tests do not rely on cellular data, and 5G is a significant battery drain, so your mileage may vary.”


for reference, the 11 Pto Max lasted 427 minutes on the same test. Iphone 12 Pro 412, iPhone 11 Pro 362 minutes
 
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Hi,

I really don’t care about 5G, my carrier doesn’t offer it yet and I see no benefits in the near future, so, using only 4G do you think that the battery of the 12 Pro would be improved, the same or worse than the 11 Pro?

12 Pro has smaller battery, so no.
 
See the toms guide review. And the Macworld review. Smaller battery but higher efficiency seem to be this year’s MO, 5G being the exception. The Qualcomm modem may also be less power hungry in LTE mode than the intel.

I'm thinking the Qualcomm modem doing LTE better might be a lot of it. Also Apple tends to not only talk about performance improvements when it announces a next generation of the A-series SoC, it very often (maybe even usually, I haven't counted) talks about reduced power consumption as well. It didn't do that at the iPhone 12 launch but I'm wondering if that might not have been because it didn't manage to get better power efficiency in the A14 but rather because it knew all those gains would be cancelled out (and more) for people using 5G so it didn't want to talk about anything to do with battery life at all.

On the other hand, I have one nagging doubt about the Tomsguide results. Did they retest the 11 Pro for the article or did they simply look up the result from the test they did in their review last year just after the 11 Pro was released? If the latter then there is no way of knowing whether the reception conditions seen during the 11 Pro and the 12 Pro 4G tests were at all comparable.

I'm really hoping the Tomsguide test results are valid but given my maybe yes, maybe no speculations above I think it could go either way.

I hadn't seen that Macworld review. That is also very encouraging but I do feel the same as the author of that review (https://www.macworld.com/article/3587406/iphone-12-pro-review-the-iphone-thats-future-proof.html) ...

An 8 percent reduction in battery capacity with a 14 percent increase in battery life, despite having a slightly larger display, speaks to the efficiency of the A14 processor. Still, we can’t help but dream of how long these phones would last if Apple stuck with the totally reasonable thickness of 8.1mm and used that extra internal space to give us a 3,400 mAh battery (still far less than comparable premium Android phones!).

I 100% agree with that. I really don't understand why Apple chose to reduce the battery capacities vs the previous year's models in an update cycle when it knew it would be adding a battery-unfriendly feature (5G). Maybe it thought it had hit the absolute limit of weight that people would tolerate. These thinner 12 Pros are pretty much exactly the same weight as the 11 Pros so presumably maintaining the same thickness as the 11 Pros and putting in a bigger battery would have resulted in a weight increase vs the 11 Pros. That's really the only reason I can think of.

And then next year we'll almost certainly have 120Hz and there are even rumours that this year's Pros already have reverse charging capability that is currently disabled both of which are additional challenges for getting good battery life.

I do hope that Apple starts trying to increase battery capacity again, hopefully next year.

[ Edited to correct typo: “from the article” -> “for the article” ]

 
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