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NaughtyNoot

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I know this question has been asked a few times already, and realise that one can only answer it depending on their own usage and expectations. Thing is, I know my usage, but don't really know what storage size I should go for. To summarise:

- LTE coverage is pretty good where I live, meaning that having to rely on streaming and cloud storage is not a big deal.
- I use iCloud Photos (have a 200GB subscription), and don't mind having not having my photos locally (I prefer to view/edit them on my Mac/iPad anyway; the iPhone is just for taking the photos). The way I understand it though is that even with "optimise iPhone storage" on, it will still require at least enough storage to store a thumbnail for every photo/video, and I'm not sure how much storage that requires for larger libraries?
- I use Apple Music, and again don't mind streaming. Ideally, I'd like to keep around 4-8GB of music locally so that I can still listen to something if network access is temporarily lost.
- Don't watch movies/series on my phone; have a 256GB iPad Mini for that now. :)
- Won't play a lot of games on it; again, have other devices for that, but might want to keep 1 or 2 games on it anyway in case I ever need to kill time and don't have those other devices with me.
- Don't care about ProRes 4k (not available on the 128GB model), and in general won't be doing much (if any) video recording.
- I will be using this as my main (and only!) camera for photos though. For me, the camera system (more specifically, the inclusion of the telephoto lens) was the main reason to pick the 13 Pro over the 13 mini this year. I also plan to experiment with ProRAW (for certain photos that I intend to edit; 95+% of photos will still be taken in HEIF). I understand that ProRAW takes up a lot of storage, but was hoping that this would be a non-issue when combined with iCloud Photos?
- Given the large investment, I do plan to keep this phone for a few years (3-5, if possible). When I do the math now (i.e., very little capacity needed to store media locally, and probably enough remaining capacity for apps/data/iOS/...), it seems that 128GB is more than enough for my usage. The main reason I'm writing this post is because I'm not 100% sure that this will still be true 3+ years from now.

Due to my very cloud-oriented usage (and the fact that I use my Mac/iPad for more serious stuff), I initially thought that the 128GB model was a no-brainer (I mean, a little over a year ago, I was using -- though also struggling with -- a 32GB iPhone 7+). Hence, I ordered the 128GB 13 Pro (hasn't arrived yet), but I'm now wondering whether storage could ever become an issue in the long run if I intend to keep this phone for several years. Perhaps my worries are just a perception issue now that 128GB is the lowest storage tier on all 13 models. On top of that, I might have some irrational storage anxiety after having a bad experience with my 32GB iPhone 7+, where running out of storage basically forced me to upgrade (otherwise, I would have probably gladly kept that device for at least another year, perhaps even two) -- back then I went with 32GB because I thought that a 128GB iPhone 7+ would be complete overkill. :D

Since there is the 14-day return window, I could still return it and order the 256GB one (I can "stretch" my budget to buy this one if necessary, but €120 is a noticeable price increase for me). Any opinions?
 
If you’re very serious about keeping 3-5 years then go for 256gb. Sounds like you bought it for the camera. Although I’d really recommend canceling and waiting for the 14 if you’re wanting 3-5 years.

You’ll be hearing all about megapixels by September.
 
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What I’d like to ask is, you’ve only really talked about the 4-8 GB of “preferential” music storage. Can you check where the rest of the storage going on your iPhone 7?! By the sound of it, you should be more than happy with 128GB.
 
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For 95% of your usage the 128gb should be plenty fine.

What you may find is depending on the number of photos you take, especially in proRAW, that you may hit a bottleneck in 1-2 years. But reading what you've written above I actually think the 128gb will be fine. And as iCloud photos will store the image in ProRAW if you find in the future you need more storage, you can just upgrade your iCloud storage?
 
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If you’re very serious about keeping 3-5 years then go for 256gb. Sounds like you bought it for the camera. Although I’d really recommend canceling and waiting for the 14 if you’re wanting 3-5 years.

You’ll be hearing all about megapixels by September.
True, but I assume that the next iPhone will always come with significant camera improvements (and they tend to be much more noticeable when upgrading every less frequently). Since I've already sold my previous phone, I'm currently borrowing my girlfriend's old iPhone SE (gen 1) until I get a new one. I don't want to wait another year while using that device as my main phone.
 
What I’d like to ask is, you’ve only really talked about the 4-8 GB of “preferential” music storage. Can you check where the rest of the storage going on your iPhone 7?! By the sound of it, you should be more than happy with 128GB.
I don't have my old 7+ anymore, so I can't check it now, but I remember being very frustrated by the mysterious "Other" and "System" categories eating up over 16GB together already. That left me with under 16GB to use for my own storage. IIRC, iCloud Photo Library with "optimise local storage" still used around 1-3GB of that, and so did my local Apple Music library. This meant having less than 10GB for apps and app data, which unfortunately turned out to be just too little for me (some apps like Facebook, Pages, Keynote, Numbers, ... already use 400MB each these days). I had to enable app offloading, which got very frustrating since important apps often had to be re-downloaded at inconvenient times (especially after doing an update or so, which temporarily requires more storage and therefore deleted multiple apps each time).
 
For 95% of your usage the 128gb should be plenty fine.

What you may find is depending on the number of photos you take, especially in proRAW, that you may hit a bottleneck in 1-2 years. But reading what you've written above I actually think the 128gb will be fine. And as iCloud photos will store the image in ProRAW if you find in the future you need more storage, you can just upgrade your iCloud storage?
Indeed, this is mainly what I wonder about. I keep reading that 128GB is not recommended if you plan on shooting in ProRAW, but that shouldn't be an issue when combined with iCloud Photos, right? As you say, I wouldn't mind having to upgrade iCloud storage if necessary, since I want to keep everything in the cloud anyway, regardless of whether I go with the 128GB or 256GB model.
 
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Do the math. If the 256 GB model is only 10% more, but allows you to keep the phone one more year before it becomes insufficient, you are ahead. It's about 30% more for the 512 GB model, but keeping the phone, say four years vs three years and you break even. If you trade the phone in sooner, how much more will a 256 GB model or a 512 GB model be worth compared to the basic 128 GB model?
 
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Relying on your iCloud storage for storing photos is a terrible idea every time. Use external drive and backup your photos regularly to avoid data loss.
With that being said, ProRAW should be fine on a 128GB iPhone even though it does take up more space than usual.
 
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Relying on your iCloud storage for storing photos is a terrible idea every time. Use external drive and backup your photos regularly to avoid data loss.
With that being said, ProRAW should be fine on a 128GB iPhone even though it does take up more space than usual.
Well, tbh I've been very satisfied with iCloud Photos so far, and will definitely keep using that: it's just incredibly convenient to take a picture and automatically have it appear on the cloud (and therefore also on all your other Apple devices) without even thinking about it. While it is not meant as a complete backup solution, it does add a pretty reliable layer of protection against data loss (definitely more fault-tolerant than any NAS I could setup myself).

You are right though that in addition, I should also backup to an external HDD regularly (because no serious backup strategy should rely on a single storage location). Choosing an iPhone with more storage would not change any of that though.
 
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Do the math. If the 256 GB model is only 10% more, but allows you to keep the phone one more year before it becomes insufficient, you are ahead. It's about 30% more for the 512 GB model, but keeping the phone, say four years vs three years and you break even. If you trade the phone in sooner, how much more will a 256 GB model or a 512 GB model be worth compared to the basic 128 GB model?
The main question is, will 256GB actually allow me to use it for one more year? If so, it would indeed be a better idea to go with that model. If not, I wouldn't have gotten any benefit at all from the €120 extra (and probably won't be able to recover most of that when reselling).
 
The main question is, will 256GB actually allow me to use it for one more year? If so, it would indeed be a better idea to go with that model. If not, I wouldn't have gotten any benefit at all from the €120 extra (and probably won't be able to recover most of that when reselling).
You definitely won't be able to recover that amount (or anywhere near it) when reselling - so don't focus on the resell when buying your phone. Focus on your use case for it.

Indeed, this is mainly what I wonder about. I keep reading that 128GB is not recommended if you plan on shooting in ProRAW, but that shouldn't be an issue when combined with iCloud Photos, right? As you say, I wouldn't mind having to upgrade iCloud storage if necessary, since I want to keep everything in the cloud anyway, regardless of whether I go with the 128GB or 256GB model.
Agreed - I think save the €120 (don't stretch yourself unnecessarily). The thing is as you use your phone more for pictures you may find your workflow adjusting alongside it. As another user mentioned you may find that you're using an external HDD with your computer to store and edit these files - so again the 128gb will be enough.

Personally I think there are enough solutions in case you DO find out you're running out of storage than pros for going for a 256gb... If you spend the €120 on it, it's gone regardless of whether you need the storage. If you save it then you can spend it if you need to on an external HDD and/or iCloud storage down the line...

I will stress that these are all just my *opinions*, so if you run out of storage in 6 months I take no responsibility LOL
 
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Relying on your iCloud storage for storing photos is a terrible idea every time. Use external drive and backup your photos regularly to avoid data loss.
With that being said, ProRAW should be fine on a 128GB iPhone even though it does take up more space than usual.

Why is it a terrible idea? Personal hardware failure is more likely than a state of the art failsafe cloud storage system.

Having said that I’ve done both but I can’t fault any cloud storage system at all. Especially the ones offered by companies that are less likely to go out of business such as apple, Amazon etc.
 
Why is it a terrible idea? Personal hardware failure is more likely than a state of the art failsafe cloud storage system.

Having said that I’ve done both but I can’t fault any cloud storage system at all. Especially the ones offered by companies that are less likely to go out of business such as apple, Amazon etc.
It is a terrible idea because cloud provider can delete your data at any point without notice. Plus, your data, your responsibility.
 
You definitely won't be able to recover that amount (or anywhere near it) when reselling - so don't focus on the resell when buying your phone. Focus on your use case for it.


Agreed - I think save the €120 (don't stretch yourself unnecessarily). The thing is as you use your phone more for pictures you may find your workflow adjusting alongside it. As another user mentioned you may find that you're using an external HDD with your computer to store and edit these files - so again the 128gb will be enough.

Personally I think there are enough solutions in case you DO find out you're running out of storage than pros for going for a 256gb... If you spend the €120 on it, it's gone regardless of whether you need the storage. If you save it then you can spend it if you need to on an external HDD and/or iCloud storage down the line...

I will stress that these are all just my *opinions*, so if you run out of storage in 6 months I take no responsibility LOL
No worries, not going to sue anyone ?. Thanks for the advice!
 
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It is a terrible idea because cloud provider can delete your data at any point without notice. Plus, your data, your responsibility.

Eh?! Which cloud provider is deleting user data now?! Sorry, I must’ve been living under a rock.
 
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128GB should be fine. If the money isn’t an issue and you really want to be safe then you could always go up a level to 256, but your use doesn’t sound like it would really need it.
 
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