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It’s just a rumour for now, pure speculation, would not put a second more thought into this for the moment.

Regarding the 14pro/max, well… I’m not sure what the consensus is on this…for sure there have been reports on more steep declining battery health from different directions but that could be caused by a lot factors and not cheaper or lesser batteries. Have a 14PM with 100% still.
 
A sketchy rumor from a random source. If this was true, there are enough actual journalists who would be all over it.
 
i always set my charging settings to optimized battery charging.
and when i do charging at nighttime or during sleep, i always charge my iphone on the magsafe which charges at 5-7w to preserve battery life. my 13 pro after 2 years still have 88% capacity before trading it to 15 pro max a few weeks ago.
 
Even if true, Apple care will surely come in handy. After all, not everything last forever.
 
If you push the battery to an extreme capacity, then the cycles will decrease. That's why knowledgeable people charge to 80% to increase available cycles.
 
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I have personal experience with both 14 pro and 13 pro. 14 pro goes to 90% in like 9 months while 13 pro goes to 90% in 2 years, that is a big difference. 15 pro should be worse with heat gate.

The iPhone 15 Pro have 80% charge limit, so they will have much better battery health over time.
 
Going through a quick scan of all his posts and not a fun trip, I have to say, drugtroubles either needs to lay down the crack pipe, or he's a shill from what ever android phone he's using. My opinion is my own and I make no claims it's truth berceuse opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one.
 
Batteries are super cheap. Highly doubt they'd bother to cut costs there, especially at a reduced quality. It probably accounts for 2-3% of the BOM, knowing what they go for. There'd be better places to cut cost at.
 
my 13 PM got to 88% in 12 months. But was quite used and charged chaotically.

Batteries are consumables. c'est la vie
 
i always set my charging settings to optimized battery charging.
and when i do charging at nighttime or during sleep, i always charge my iphone on the magsafe which charges at 5-7w to preserve battery life. my 13 pro after 2 years still have 88% capacity before trading it to 15 pro max a few weeks ago.
My three year old iPhone 12 regular model had 84% capacity left when I traded it in last week. Been using optimized battery charging all the time.
 
Apple switched from high quality cells to cheaper inferior cells in recent years, not only for iPhone 15 but across all devices, going worse from year to year, I can't prove it, but from my experience this is the only explanation. I noticed that in Macbooks and iPhones (and no, I don't use fast charging/wireless charging). There was a time Apple used batteries in Macbooks that would still have 90% capacity after 1000 cycles / iPhones after 500 cycles, and these batteries would rarely swell unlike the ones used in recent years. But it is no surprise as they are cutting costs here and there, Timmy is pretty good in that. I could write a list (example plastic used on current keyboards do get shiny way faster than in older models, they even save costs by using cheaper quality plastic) about what has decreased in quality nowadays, but let's not start with that. Be prepared for things getting even worse, it won't stop from here.

Tip: We can't have control over the quality of the batteries Apple uses, but a few habits will increase the lifespan anyways (I won't explain the reasons/chemistry behind it, you need to look it up yourself if you want to know it in detail why)

1.Use AI Dente and only allow the battery to charge to 90% (80% even better), with sailing mode activated at 5%, means if you plug in your Mac, it won't pump in a charge every time the battery drops by 1%.

2. Do not let the battery drop below 40%

3. Avoid fast charging

With that you will have roughly 40-50% to use, since most Macbook Air users are light users I assume, you could turn on Low Power Mode and it would give you around 8-9 hours for those 40-50%.

Have been using that method on my iPhone 12 Mini I bought back in December 2020. It still has 95% capacity at around 450 cycles. Like I said, I'm not a heavy user.

Developing a habit to plug in at the right time might be annoying in the beginning, but once it becomes a habit, you won't notice it when doing it.

And yes you can also do like some say, just use it without thinking and change your battery after 2 years of use. But then 1. It will cost you obviously and 2. every time you drop off your device for repair, you risk someone messing things up and causing other troubles. That is why I try not to let anyone open my devices unless really necessary.
 
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Apple switched from high quality cells to cheaper inferior cells in recent years, not only for iPhone 15 but across all devices, going worse from year to year, I can't prove it, but from my experience this is the only explanation.
I don‘t believe this is accurate, so I completely understand why you can’t prove it or cite a reputable third-party source that has performed a tear down and reported on inferior cells.

Apple hasn’t changed the cycle counts in the warranties of any of its products (80% at 500 cycles for iPhone, 80% at 1,000 cycles for other devices).
 
Apple hasn’t changed the cycle counts in the warranties of any of its products (80% at 500 cycles for iPhone, 80% at 1,000 cycles for other devices).
Yeah, technically it’s always been like that but they used to last a lot more. Double that from an iPhone was expected. I have been above 80% at 1000 cycles on an iPhone. iPhone 14 was definitely a drop in longevity.

That said, I’m not too opposed to them using lower quality batteries as long as they’re made from more and more recycled materials. 100% recycled cobalt this year is a great step. Batteries are a consumable so whether I have to replace it 2 or 3 years in doesn’t matter much to me especially if it’s a battery that causes a lot less harm. Pretty much everything on an iPhone is replaceable nowadays and the battery and screen are something I believe anyone could swap themselves.
 
I don‘t believe this is accurate, so I completely understand why you can’t prove it or cite a reputable third-party source that has performed a tear down and reported on inferior cells.

Apple hasn’t changed the cycle counts in the warranties of any of its products (80% at 500 cycles for iPhone, 80% at 1,000 cycles for other devices).
Then your statements mean nothing and just random rhetoric based on nothing.
Obviously I don't have the resources or capabilities to do a tear down. My experience and that of others is proof enough for me, and that's how our system works anyway, get less for more $. I've been alive long enough to know when there's something fishy. I replaced my macs with non original batteries that degraded way slower than Apples original batteries built in recent Macs. That's a shame

Even though Apple hasn't changed the cycle counts in the warranties, it means nothing. Simply do a bit research about surveys in forums where people tell about their battery health and cycle count...the majority of them wouldn't even remotely reach that cycle count. And regarding "warranty", from what I know, the warranty only covers it for a year, unless you pay for Apple Care. It's kind of difficult to get the battery below 80% after only one year of use. But that's all part of the plan, I guess Apple knows that..
 
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On the dark side of the moon is a WW2 fascist moon base run by a half robospider with a very short moustache who worships Patrick Stewart. I can’t prove it though.
 
Well I’ll just say this as a iPhone 11 user, my battery capacity went down to like 78% at one point, that was sometime in the middle of last year, then I sent it into Apple and they just completely replaced the phone and in fact gave me the same color and everything. Best as I can tell from the numbering serial number scheme it’s a new one also. All that cost really was, was having AppleCare+. Screw all this taking extra care of your battery crap, just do the optimized battery charging crap and hope for the best. I use my phone was to much for intensive stuff to even begin to follow all these made up rules people make. Besides being able to just get a brand new phone from Apple with AppleCare+, it gives you a piece of mind anyways. These batteries could be made out of rice cakes and silly string for all I care as long as Apple replaces it.
 
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Well I’ll just say this as a iPhone 11 user, my battery capacity went down to like 78% at one point, that was sometime in the middle of last year, then I sent it into Apple and they just completely replaced the phone and in fact gave me the same color and everything. Best as I can tell from the numbering serial number scheme it’s a new one also. All that cost really was, was having AppleCare+. Screw all this taking extra care of your battery crap, just do the optimized battery charging crap and hope for the best. I use my phone was to much for intensive stuff to even begin to follow all these made up rules people make. Besides being able to just get a brand new phone from Apple with AppleCare+, it gives you a piece of mind anyways. These batteries could be made out of rice cakes and silly string for all I care as long as Apple replaces it.

If you paid apply care plus monthly for 3 years, that is a lot of money.
 
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