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All these articles keep touting how the A19 will improve power efficiency, but if anything that just makes the standard and Pro 17-series (especially Max) all the more tempting imo...

BUT I do know many people have frequent access to a charger, so this phone seems to be more so targeted at them.
They always tout SoC power effeciency to justify smaller batteries, but it's always been the screen that drains batteries the most.
 
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Honestly i reckon it will be on par with the 13 Mini in battery life.
Well, depends on the use case. Increasingly, battery life depends on how you use the thing.

At idle, modern processors are incredibly efficient. At full bore, they burn more power than ever (albeit doing even more work than ever), and innovation is increasingly spent on improving the thermals (cooling system).

Meanwhile the displays are getting bigger and brighter. Not enough attention is given to the fact that, unlike any previous ultra-thin Apple device, the 17 Air will have a huge display (showing that Apple has learnt from previous market failures).

No doubt that huge display will also have a high peak brightness. That large display will burn a huge amount of energy outdoors on a sunny day.

On the other hand, the radios are becoming ever more efficient, so the Air will likely spend relatively little of its energy budget on network activity (5G, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC), by comparison to previous phones, especially old ones like the 13 mini that had a barely viable 5G modem that ripped through the battery (I have a 13 mini and know about that).

Personally i used to get around 36 hours in between charges with my 13 mini with light/medium use which is decent, but the 17 Air will have a much larger Promotion screen which people will want to use a lot for content consumption which is the main issue here.
That last point is debatable. The incredible battery life that Apple quotes for its mobile devices (e.g. 29 hours) is based on video playback at low screen brightness – a “stuck on a long-haul flight” scenario. That is because Apple Silicon devices have advanced hardware acceleration for video codecs, meaning they use remarkably little energy to play back video.

In real life, that is not how anyone uses the device (except maybe on that trans-Pacific flight).

I personally use Safari a great deal (downloading data with a radio, rendering wildly bloated modern web pages with moving ads everywhere), open and close all manner of apps for daily activities (messaging, synchronised Notes, banking app, a terrible BMW car app, Google Translate, use the camera a lot (for video too), play music (constantly downloading small amounts of data that don’t let the radios idle for long, running an inefficient Spotify app, running the Bluetooth radio for hours), and use my 13 mini for navigation in an older car that doesn’t have a screen (meaning the 4G/5G radios are running at high power, plus I have to have the OLED screen at high brightness to see anything on the screen in sunlight, plus Google Maps is burning through CPU cycles).

That’s my real world, but everyone has their own real world – usually not indoor video playback when you’ll have access to a charger anyway.
 
I don’t understand. The iPhone 17 Pro battery is not going to be 2900 mAh, so it must have been the Air battery. The casing is one thing, but it can’t be the Pro battery.
Also, regarding 17 Air, I think people are forgetting that it will have a modified C1 modem and * Apple Bluetooth/Wi-Fi chip * which will both contribute tremendously to battery life; much more so than the A19 will.
2900 Mh is for the 17 Air, not Pro model. The C1 modem was initially thought to be the reason behind the iPhone 16e great battery life, but it was not this at all but the large 4,000 Mh battery, so wouldnt hold your breath in this regard.
 
Honestly i reckon it will be on par with the 13 Mini in battery life. Personally i used to get around 36 hours in between charges with my 13 mini with light/medium use which is decent, but the 17 Air will have a much larger Promotion screen which people will want to use a lot for content consumption which is the main issue here.
Well, short battery life is a very common complaint with the 13 mini.

2900 Mh is for the 17 Air, not Pro model. The C1 modem was initially thought to be the reason behind the iPhone 16e great battery life, but it was not this at all but the large 4,000 Mh battery, so wouldnt hold your breath in this regard.
2900 mAh is now stated to be for the 17 Pro. However, this doesn't make sense to me, since the 16 Pro is 3582 mAh.
 
A bigger physical battery is always better. Sure they can make it better with software tweaks, but once it degrades, you'll will notice it right away.

I had a 13 Mini, brand new, battery was good for 3 months, after that, it became a SE.
 
Really not a concern to me if I ended up with the 17 Air as I hardly ever ran out of battery.

Same here. The Air will have a much more power efficient CPU and Apple modem chip.

Still... many like to go for the sky is falling, the sky is falling.... before even reading a review from a credible source.
 
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Don't put batteries at all. Super lazy Apple. After buying batteries companies, they just stop the R&D and let suppliers do or not the science.
 
wait so the 17 pro is gonna have a 2900 battery?
Extremely unlikely. That number was the rumor for the 17 Air.
Well, short battery life is a very common complaint with the 13 mini.


2900 mAh is now stated to be for the 17 Pro. However, this doesn't make sense to me, since the 16 Pro is 3582 mAh.
Where is there a rumor that the 17 Pro will have that capacity? This rumor was that the photos showed the 17 Air battery and the Air would have about a 2900 mAh battery. The update is that the photo is of the 17 Pro battery pack but the capacity would still be for the Air.
 
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All these articles keep touting how the A19 will improve power efficiency, but if anything that just makes the standard and Pro 17-series (especially Max) all the more tempting imo...

BUT I do know many people have frequent access to a charger, so this phone seems to be more so targeted at them.
Yeah, it’s not going to be the phone for anybody who is constantly away from power. It’ll be a phone for people who are willing to sacrifice convenience for looks, and that’s a lot of people.
 
To mitigate this problem, the report said that Apple is planning to release a battery case as an optional accessory for the iPhone 17 Air.

😂😂😂 Oh man.. this company.
It’s like “let’s make an incredibly thin phone with a horrible battery so that you can throw on a case, double the thickness, and have good battery again! Oh.. and that battery case will cost you $499”
 
Extremely unlikely. That number was the rumor for the 17 Air.

Where is there a rumor that the 17 Pro will have that capacity? This rumor was that the photos showed the 17 Air battery and the Air would have about a 2900 mAh battery. The update is that the photo is of the 17 Pro battery pack but the capacity would still be for the Air.
The MacRumors article was updated.
MacRumors said:
Majin Bu now says that this battery is actually for the iPhone 17 Pro, instead of the iPhone 17 Air as they originally claimed. There will apparently be two variants, for models with and without a physical SIM card tray.
However, perhaps MacRumors is mistaken, since it's not 100% clear.
 
Well, short battery life is a very common complaint with the 13 mini.


2900 mAh is now stated to be for the 17 Pro. However, this doesn't make sense to me, since the 16 Pro is 3582 mAh.
Maybe the camera bump taking all that space means there are components that need more room, and they reduced the battery size? I don’t know, it’s the only thing that makes a bit of sense…

What is clear tho, is that with the new design in aluminum instead of steel (or titanium) and a smaller battery, they are probably aiming for a drastic weight reduction on the iPhone Pro.
 
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Definitely some miscommunication in this article. The 17 Pro will definitely have a battery with at least 3500 Mh at minimum.
 
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What is clear tho, is that with the new design in aluminum instead of steel (or titanium) and a smaller battery, they are probably aiming for a drastic weight reduction on the iPhone Pro.
Why would Apple dilute the impact of the Air by optimising the weight of the Pro on this generation?

Nah.

The move to aluminium is about cost and cooling, now that the Air will take over as the stylish choice and the Pro doesn’t need to be as glamorous.

Meanwhile the cameras and batteries will likely get even heavier. I doubt the overall weight of the Pro models will change much.
 
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