stopped by an apple store today to check out the 17 (and 16). had my OGSE with me. can't see an improvement in build quality. bigger, yes. better, not to my eye. yeah, i know, stop living in the past. i do think my next phone will be a 13 mini with a new apple installed battery. have to use a headphone dongle, but other than that i should be ok for a few more years until apple re-invents the iphone with a new mini version.