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C. Robert

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If apple took the total depth of the air at the camera bump then made the body that same thickness, added all the cameras, used titanium rails, and a slightly smaller battery. It would have been the perfect phone and relatively thinner. Just a thought
 
View attachment 2559147If apple took the total depth of the air at the camera bump then made the body that same thickness, added all the cameras, used titanium rails, and a slightly smaller battery. It would have been the perfect phone and relatively thinner. Just a thought
With camera bump the Air is approx 6.9mm in depth and the Pro is 9.9mm. Using Apple's website, which only goes back to the iPhone 7, it has a total depth of 7.1mm so what you're asking for is not possible or not the look apple wants. Additionally, you have weight distribution which is over looked and the Air is great in this area and so is the normal Pro.

Thoughts are great but engineering brings it back to reality.
 
With camera bump the Air is approx 6.9mm in depth and the Pro is 9.9mm. Using Apple's website, which only goes back to the iPhone 7, it has a total depth of 7.1mm so what you're asking for is not possible or not the look apple wants. Additionally, you have weight distribution which is over looked and the Air is great in this area and so is the normal Pro.

Thoughts are great but engineering brings it back to reality.
The air has a 48MP sensor and is thinner than the 17 pros at the humps. It’s possible.
 
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The air has a 48MP sensor and is thinner than the 17 pros at the humps. It’s possible.
But you want all the Pro cameras in the Air and I would argue that's one of the things that makes the Pro the size it is so it's evident that wouldn't work. A Pro camera system in a Air would eat a ton of battery life and requires extra hardware which in turn gives the dimensions we have now. Something has to give and someone would complain so we got what we got.

Hard to say it's possible when you have zero idea what went into the process. Heck, my thought would be to only have one phone with everything Apple has to offer in an even thinner design than Air but with two day long battery life.
 
Yes, and smaller.

Air would have been a good device for me if not this monstrous 6.5 inch display, I appreciate that it is so light, lightest iPhone ever made (except mighty older iPhones like 5 or 6), as well as I would need speaker at the bottom of a phone + all the features from Pro like ProRES RAW, ProRAW, 4k120 etc, not even asking for triple camera array at this point.

Right now I am thinking, if current 48mp sensors are that large that they are actually making iPhones look ugly and dysmorphic, what will happen if Apple was to increase sensor size again? Unless they leave only one single camera and tell people to “zoom with your crop” like in iPhone 17 and Air
 
But you want all the Pro cameras in the Air and I would argue that's one of the things that makes the Pro the size it is so it's evident that wouldn't work. A Pro camera system in a Air would eat a ton of battery life and requires extra hardware which in turn gives the dimensions we have now. Something has to give and someone would complain so we got what we got.

Hard to say it's possible when you have zero idea what went into the process. Heck, my thought would be to only have one phone with everything Apple has to offer in an even thinner design than Air but with two day long battery life.
it would be thicker than the air throughout the body. A uniform size.
 
Wouldn’t work imo otherwise Apple would have done it.

Also there is nothing really wrong with the Pro’s they are still solid and of course offer top of the line performance.

It’s the way Apple went from thin and sexy looking Intel MacBoom Pro’s to thicker and a lot chunkier M1 MBP’s back in 2021 but the performance gains were massive. Performance over form is the way Apple is going with the iPhone Pro models. And there’s nothing really wrong with that.
 
With camera bump the Air is approx 6.9mm in depth and the Pro is 9.9mm. Using Apple's website, which only goes back to the iPhone 7, it has a total depth of 7.1mm so what you're asking for is not possible or not the look apple wants.
That's not correct. The Air is 5.64mm + 3.03mm = 8.67mm with the camera plateau (and 11.32mm with the camera lens).
 
Air would have been a good device for me if not this monstrous 6.5 inch display, I appreciate that it is so light, lightest iPhone ever made (except mighty older iPhones like 5 or 6)
Eh, since you don't factor the screen size in, it's barely lighter than the 16e, and already heavier than the iPhone 12, not to mention the iPhone minis.

The Air is really only lightweight in comparison to the Plus and the Pros.
 
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The OP is on to something in some regards, why not make the iPhone a tad thicker, do away with the hump/plateau/mtn peak and instead of a uniform size.
Setting aside cameras, components and performance momentarily, what I've recently realized is how much I enjoy an iPhone with a flat front, flat back and no camera bump or plateau.

Such as my 16e with its minimal single camera bezel.

I bought this model as a secondary iPhone purely for occasional use when I don't need or want to carry my essential for work iPhone 16 Pro Max. Turns out I'm really happy with it.

After years of big screen phones I had forgotten just how nice it is to have a light, compact, easily pocketed phone.

That is until I got my Galaxy S25 Edge. Oh sure it has a bump housing its dual cameras, but it’s not as big as my triple camera equipped Pro Max. Which brings me back to iPhone Air.

I really wanted to like and buy the Air during my recent visit to the Apple Store. However I just couldn't ignore the dreadful sound of its single speaker. The rather odd in-hand feel of the camera plateau was also off putting.

Make no mistake, I'm not bashing iPhone Air, but simply sharing my experience and preferences. Taking a wait and see approach, perhaps the next version of this model will fit my needs.
 
Eh, since you don't factor the screen size in, it's barely lighter than the 16e, and already heavier than the iPhone 12, not to mention the iPhone minis.

The Air is really only lightweight in comparison to the Plus and the Pros.
For me, coming from a 16 Pro to the Air, I am very happy with my choice.

Never used the Pro features at all - only bought the 16 Pro for AOD (BEV vehicle app).

New form factor with the thin frame makes it much easier to manipulate with one hand.

When I fly, it's easier to take photos as the pilot without that heft, weight and bulkiness.

Recent flight 3000' over Pasadena, CA
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The OP is on to something in some regards, why not make the iPhone a tad thicker, do away with the hump/plateau/mtn peak and instead of a uniform size.
Because adding all of that extra thickness also adds extra weight.
Apple could make the entire phone as thick as the camera bump, but then you’re looking at a phone that’s likely an extra 100G and approaching the thickness of an iPhone 3G or a first generation iPad.
 
With camera bump the Air is approx 6.9mm in depth and the Pro is 9.9mm. Using Apple's website, which only goes back to the iPhone 7, it has a total depth of 7.1mm so what you're asking for is not possible or not the look apple wants. Additionally, you have weight distribution which is over looked and the Air is great in this area and so is the normal Pro.

Thoughts are great but engineering brings it back to reality.
Wait, why does the Air have to be this thin?
Because you just said it couldn’t be thicker for engineering reasons.
The internals could realistically have a thicker shape, maybe with a stacked motherboard.
I don’t understand why it couldn’t be slightly thicker but not as thick as the Pro.
 
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