While as a user of the iPhone Air I sympathize with this as an absolute issue, I don’t think that Apple cares. They have downgraded the speakers in their products before and called it new, the 2024 iPad Pro has worse speakers than the 2018-2022, the M2 through M5 MacBook Air all have worse speakers than the M1 MacBook Air.Don’t forget the stereo speakers of 17 and 17e, so to match 17 that Air 2 will also need to fit another speaker in.
You don’t have a single clue what Steve’s iPhone line in 2026 would look like, this is such a silly argument.If Steve was still here we would only had
iPhone mini (a smaller version of the flagship)
iPhone (flagship model)
iPhone classic (iPhone SE style with Home button)
The fold would be a different category probably. Something like iBook.
Yeah, if word gets out that the 18 and 18e are identical except for camera or something, it's quite possible you end up with a lower average sale price. Unless this is Apple's way of lowering the price (by making the 18e good) without a price drop on the regular iphone, because of the economy.I predict that instead of increasing phone sales by doing 100 iPhones they will just spread their sells among all the iPhones. Then the Ultra will flop line the VP and the standard model will move back to September when its all set and done.
I'm a former Pro Max user that kept trying to convince myself in past years that I would use some of the pro features like the better cameras, etc... but at the end of the day I realized the only "Pro" feature that actually mattered to me was the screen. This made the iPhone 17 a no brainer and I ended up buying a Ricoh GR IIIx for high quality pocket camera carry.iPhone XX might be somewhat fresh and interesting, otherwise I see no real incentive to upgrade from the excellent iPhone 17.
Is it bad?This is good news. The gap between the standard and Pro iPhones is ridiculously small.
Now the Pro will feel like a real pro again! Pro Power!
lol that would be funny since they just introduced the NEO guess they can’t decide. My guess is chasing the bottom line we will all see plastic phones in the near futureI wouldn't be surprised if they just got rid of the base model just like the OG MacBook
He is The One, after all...Just release an iPhone Neo
That’s it… that’s all they need to do for it to be a good deal. Eliminate the E model and combined it with the Regular Base model iPhone = Neo
Make the Air have two cameras and the Neo have one camera.
I never said he wouldn’t divide the line up. As I wrote he would have done it but in a way that would make sense. The e mails were probably thoughts he had on how to do it not real products.The idea that Steve wouldn’t have eventually diversified the lineup isn’t just literally the opposite of what he did, but it also is literally betrayed by internal emails from the man himself back from 2009-2010 where he is talking about wanting to introduce an “iPhone 4+”, an “iPhone 4S” and an iPhone based off of parts from the iPod Touch. The man clearly wanted to expand the lineup, just like he did with the iPod, iPod Mini, iPod Shuffle, iPod Nano, iPod Color, iPod hi-fi, iPod Touch…
Ding ding ding.iPhone 17 base gang here. Knew it was too good to be true when I got it. Had the top tier line (X, Pro, etc) forever and didn't think twice about getting the base 17 especially since no black in 17 Pro. It's too good for $799. Apple appears to have realized it haha
Why not buy a 17 now and you'll be set for a few years? Then in 3-4 years the non pro models won't be gimped again. Its just a cycle Apple does. When too many people buy the non pro models this is what apple responds with.If you're going to gimp the 18 that badly why have an 18e then just drop it.
I'm disapointed about this though as I don't get pro phones I prefer the regular models as there aren't that many drawbacks over the Pro.