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iPhone 3gS capable of 720p recording & video chat.

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Engadget reports — based on the tear-downs we’ve seen — that the iPhone 3G S’ ARM Cortex A8 processor is capable of a wee bit more than Apple has thus far enabled.
Currently running at 600MHz, it actually supports a top clock speed of 833MHz and here are the kickers: 720p video recording and real-time video conferencing.
We’ll likely not see the clock speed ramped up for power-saving reasons, nor the video conferencing due to the lack of front-facing camera. But the 720p video recording?
Apple, flip the switch!
 
I know for a fact that the iphone 3g s would be capable of recording 720p at 30fps video if apple decided to up the processor during video recording. Look at all of the the pocket cam corders like the kodak zx1 and the flip mino hd. I would put my money on them not having a processor larger than that of the iphone 3g s.
 
harry20larry said:
I know for a fact that the iphone 3g s would be capable of recording 720p at 30fps video if apple decided to up the processor during video recording. Look at all of the the pocket cam corders like the kodak zx1 and the flip mino hd. I would put my money on them not having a processor larger than that of the iphone 3g s.
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Have you spoken with any engineers familiar with video encoding and/or the iPhone's hardware? Do you really know for a fact or are you just speculating?

They may have smaller processors, but they also don't have to do all the other things the iPhone does. Look at the first two iPhones, technically they can record video but the execution isn't the best in the world.

Hell, my four y/o digital camera can do video better than the first two iPhones and it has a smaller processor. Yet after all this time the creators of Cycorder and VideoRecorder can't do better than 10-15fps.
 
harry20larry said:
I know for a fact that the iphone 3g s would be capable of recording 720p at 30fps video if apple decided to up the processor during video recording. Look at all of the the pocket cam corders like the kodak zx1 and the flip mino hd. I would put my money on them not having a processor larger than that of the iphone 3g s.
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You're forgetting that those devices are...what? camcorders! The iPhone is a what?

The camcorders will have specialised video processing chips that make video shooting, converting and the necessary balances natively. That's all those chips so. General purpose chips like those found in computers and the iPhone are good at everything but are not excellent at any one thing.
 
Samsung OmniaHD has 720p video recording and it uses the same omap chip as 3Gs so theoretically 3Gs can do it. OmniaHD runs on Symbian so it ain't 100% valid comparison, but better than nothing! =)
 
peperoni said:
Samsung OmniaHD has 720p video recording and it uses the same omap chip as 3Gs so theoretically 3Gs can do it. OmniaHD runs on Symbian so it ain't 100% valid comparison, but better than nothing! =)
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Well, the underlying hardware (OMAP 3430) is the same so it is possible for 720p @ 30 fps recording/playback on the 3G S⃣ . The 3MP camera is capable of 2048 x 1536 so it is not limited by the camera as someone pointed out. Samsung claims the chip consumes very low power. http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...wnloads/systemlsi/s5pc100_brochure_200902.pdf

So why has Apple chosen VGA? I don't see why they can't have both a 720p HD and VGA option. Is it because of uploading to YouTube via 3G? It can be easily be solved by VGA over 3G and 720p via wifi. But I'm sure they've thought of that. :confused:
 
It's marketing people.

It's called marketing and you'll likely see HD quality recording in the next iPhone. They just announced video and people are stoked. They gotta milk it.

As much as I hate the "holding back" of this device, I have to admit, it's a marketing gold mine.

The fact that this is the 3rd release and still sold a million phones over the weekend is crazy (with one carrier mind you).

How about next year when they do decide to release a front facing cam for video conferencing? Believe me, they know.

My ass is gonna buy it (again) despite my ineligibility to upgrade.

They don't market "genius" for nothing.
 
But the network its on AT&T is not capable of video iChat, nor will it handle users uploading 720P content while on AT&T. WiFi yeah you can do it all, but imaging what would happen to AT&T if Apple lets this lose. Their network would explode!!! LOL
 
Narzist said:
720p runs at 60fps.
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720p is a resolution, not a framerate. 60fps is the best you can do you 720p, but you can have 720p at other framerates, commonly 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60 fps.

If you're going to be a dick, at least make sure you're right.
 
dancavallaro said:
720p is a resolution, not a framerate. 60fps is the best you can do you 720p, but you can have 720p at other framerates, commonly 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60 fps.

If you're going to be a dick, at least make sure you're right.
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LOL. All of this.
 
What makes 720p so much better? Take a look at the video recorded on this thing. It looks just as good as the $400 camcorder I bought last year in the sizes I have used it. Oooh, it can't record HD-quality video. So? Most actual camcorders can't do that yet. I'm an HDaholic, but I'm not going to whine about some magical 720p benchmark.
 
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