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Iphone 5 HSPA+?

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metsjetsfan

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anyone out there who is stuck on att hoping for HSPA+ on the next iphone in addition to LTE. While its definitely not 21 mpbs as advertised its still better than the iphone 4S 'fake' 4G speed.

Anyone out there with an HSPA+ phone know the real speeds. Ive heard abt 2-8. But usually consistenly above 2.
 
On both the GSII and 4S I've seen speeds upwards of 9-10, and around 2-3 or so at heavy/busy times.... even at 3 though it's way way faster then normal 3G. I just ran a test and hit 4.8 down which is normal for this time (10am-12pm). Can depend on your area, AT&T has a killer footprint throughout South FL.

Not sure what you mean though about hoping for hspa+? 4S is already hspa+ capable ;)
 
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metsjetsfan said:
anyone out there who is stuck on att hoping for HSPA+ on the next iphone in addition to LTE. While its definitely not 21 mpbs as advertised its still better than the iphone 4S 'fake' 4G speed.

Anyone out there with an HSPA+ phone know the real speeds. Ive heard abt 2-8. But usually consistenly above 2.
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huh??

they advertise hspa+ up to 14mbps
and
you say hspa+ is better than the fake iphone 4s fake 4g speed..
this "fake 4g speed" is hspa+


my iphone 4s consistently runs at 5-6 mbps, 7-8 in the wee hours. here in austin.
my ipad 3 lte runs at 50 mbps :)
 
I've seen speeds around 12Mbps where I work. The 6th generation iPhone may likely come with HDPA+DC like the iPad 3. Don't forget LTE isn't 4G either. It's more like 3.75G and all it's really good for to most people is blowing through their data plans faster.
 
BFizzzle said:
huh??

they advertise hspa+ 14mbps
and
you say hspa+ is better than the fake iphone 4s fake 4g speed..
this "fake 4g speed" is hspa+


my iphone 4s consistently runs at 5-6 mbps, 7-8 in the wee hours. here in austin.
my ipad 3 lte runs at 50 mbps :)
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confused me too... not sure what he's talking about/or means??
 
Intell said:
I've seen speeds around 12Mbps where I work. The 6th generation iPhone may likely come with HDPA+DC like the iPad 3. Don't forget LTE isn't 4G either. It's more like 3.75G and all it's really good for to most people is blowing through their data plans faster.
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yeah,
i think i would mess myself if i had 1gbps speeds, much less mobile 1gbps.
i wonder how long it will be until we get true 4g speeds.
 
BFizzzle said:
yeah,
i think i would mess myself if i had 1gbps speeds, much less mobile 1gbps.
i wonder how long it will be until we get true 4g speeds.
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Did you see the new Fios speeds? They updated their system to 300Mbps capable :eek:, I download and do a ton of media and my Comcast at 20-25 down is more than fast enough, can imagine how much quicker 300Mbps would be ... now if someone could figure out a chip in a phone to handle that, pry drain the phone in 10 seconds :D . Though since last year it looks like Google and a few others are testing 1Gbps speeds... nutz
 
SurferMan said:
Did you see the new Fios speeds? They updated their system to 300Mbps capable :eek:, I download and do a ton of media and my Comcast at 20-25 down is more than fast enough, can imagine how much quicker 300Mbps would be ... now if someone could figure out a chip in a phone to handle that, pry drain the phone in 10 seconds :D . Though since last year it looks like Google and a few others are testing 1Gbps speeds... nutz
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damn! thats nice, yeah i get 110 mbps with grande. :) i cant imagine having a 30 mb/s download with the fios
 
BFizzzle said:
damn! thats nice, yeah i get 110 mbps with grande. :) i cant imagine having a 30 mb/s download with the fios
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I wonder what the upload throttle would be for that plan. I have TWC's 30/5 Extreme offering but mostly just for the upload speed. Real-life comes to about 680Kbps. Would be nice to be able to stream HD plex to 2 remote locations concurrently though. TWC's Wideband option is 50/5, so it wouldn't help there.
 
takeshi74 said:
Isn't the 4G indicator for HSPA+?
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BFizzzle said:
huh??

they advertise hspa+ up to 14mbps
and
you say hspa+ is better than the fake iphone 4s fake 4g speed..
this "fake 4g speed" is hspa+


my iphone 4s consistently runs at 5-6 mbps, 7-8 in the wee hours. here in austin.
my ipad 3 lte runs at 50 mbps :)
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Iphone 4S is not HSPA+ unless HSDPA counts, then I am wrong but see below and source link from apple.com. I guess this maybe good since it may mean the iphone 5 has an even better fallback speed from LTE, for those on ATT.

4S Bands:
UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz);
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
 
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blevins321 said:
I wonder what the upload throttle would be for that plan. I have TWC's 30/5 Extreme offering but mostly just for the upload speed. Real-life comes to about 680Kbps. Would be nice to be able to stream HD plex to 2 remote locations concurrently though. TWC's Wideband option is 50/5, so it wouldn't help there.
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my upload is about the same unfortunately :( 110/5mbps. 600kb/s

you mean 680 kb/s??? kbps would be way slow :p
i used to have twc 50/5 wideband before this. it wasnt bad. id download at 60mbps actually which was nice.
 
metsjetsfan said:
Iphone 4S is not HSPA+ unless HSDPA counts, then I am wrong but see below and source link from apple.com. I guess this maybe good since it may mean the iphone 5 has an even better fallback speed from LTE, for those on ATT.

4S Bands:
UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz);
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
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yeah hspa+ is a type of hsdpa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/2
shows the Qualcomm MDM6610 chipset (an upgrade from the iPhone 4's MDM6600)

http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/gobi
shows that the 6600+ series supports hspa+
 
metsjetsfan said:
That is awful then as 4S speeds are subpar. Hello VZ. Thanks for clarification!
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Verizon's LTE service, while bigger than AT&T's, is slower than AT&T's. Then in the areas that there is not LTE on either carrier, an AT&T iPhone will still be faster because it will have HSPA+ or HSPA+DC to fall back on. A Verizon iPhone will fall back to EVDO-A, which has a max average of 2.85Mbps.

In my own personal experience, my AT&T 4S has bested a few people's LTE Android phones in either speed or ping time and rarely both. Of course this is in downtown Pittsburgh around noon on a weekday.
 
metsjetsfan said:
That is awful then as 4S speeds are subpar. Hello VZ. Thanks for clarification!
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huh? hspa+ blows away other networks fallback speeds, have fun dealing with Edge. I'll take hspa+ anyday over battery draining LTE, nevermind LTE doesn't have near the coverage overall of hspa+ and LTE is still sporadic, with Verizon my experience with LTE is all over. 1 second it's fast, next it's slower then hspa+, then it's in the middle, then slower again, then faster... not consistent at all.

What exactly is awful about that, your getting fast speeds w/o battery drain of LTE... win win to me
 
Thanks! Battery drain seems to be another consideration. Will see how apple sells it on the next iphone
 
All of you urban dwellers complaining with 50/5Mbps. I'm stuck in a DSL exclusive market with the maximum package AT&T offered at 6/.768Mbps.
 
metsjetsfan said:
anyone out there who is stuck on att hoping for HSPA+ on the next iphone in addition to LTE. While its definitely not 21 mpbs as advertised its still better than the iphone 4S 'fake' 4G speed.

Anyone out there with an HSPA+ phone know the real speeds. Ive heard abt 2-8. But usually consistenly above 2.
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Uhmm the iPhone 4S "4g speed" is Hspa+.

Troll is failing. And yeah my iPhone can pull about 6-8mbps. So lol.
 
*Waves fist at American friends on 4G* :D

In the UK, there's no 4G at all yet. :(

Trials are running across the 5 networks, but a public release is unlikely before summer 2013, as Ofcom (the governing body) haven't even auctioned off the spectrum yet.

I get an average of about 6Mbps on 3 on my 4S, which I'm happy with, but 4G would be nice.



Having said that, our tariffs and choice are far greater here in the UK and I believe we get far better value for money.

For example, I get 2000 any network minutes, 5000 texts, 5000 "3 to 3" minutes, truly unlimited data (they call it "All you can eat"!) and tethering and I pay £25 ($40) per month, which I gather is much better than in the US.

*Does the "move arms around in a circle in front" dance!*

Anyway, roll on next year!
 
Azzin said:
*Waves fist at American friends on 4G* :D

In the UK, there's no 4G at all yet. :(

Trials are running across the 5 networks, but a public release is unlikely before summer 2013, as Ofcom (the governing body) haven't even auctioned off the spectrum yet.

I get an average of about 6Mbps on 3 on my 4S, which I'm happy with, but 4G would be nice.

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Having said that, our tariffs and choice are far greater here in the UK and I believe we get far better value for money.

For example, I get 2000 any network minutes, 5000 texts, 5000 "3 to 3" minutes, truly unlimited data (they call it "All you can eat"!) and tethering and I pay £25 ($40) per month, which I gather is much better than in the US.

*Does the "move arms around in a circle in front" dance!*

Anyway, roll on next year!
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Plus you only have 2 year contracts and have 0 pound phone deals on them.

We in Canada have to pay over $150 and lock ourselves for three years.

Yes, three years.

Ugh.

I will happily trade our LTE speeds with your $40 plans (which have literally 10x the amount of minutes, data and texts and still cheaper than our plans) and 2 year contracts. You can have our 3 year locked in LTE speeds :)
 
sentinelsx said:
Plus you only have 2 year contracts and have 0 pound phone deals on them.

We in Canada have to pay over $150 and lock ourselves for three years.

Yes, three years.

Ugh.

I will happily trade our LTE speeds with your $40 plans (which have literally 10x the amount of minutes, data and texts and still cheaper than our plans) and 2 year contracts. You can have our 3 year locked in LTE speeds :)
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Ouch.

We also have 12/18 month contracts too (obviously the price of the handset &/or tariff can increase to make up for the shorter subsidy), but thanks to an EU ruling a little while back, I think 2 years is now the max.
 
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