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FactorialN

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This may sound ridiculous, but I've noticed that since iOS 14, both my iPhone 12 Pro Max and my iPhone XS Max feels smoother at night than in the day. To make it clear, my iPhones have faster animation, higher animation frame rate and less micro stutter from about 9pm to 9am everyday. Is there anyone with the similar issue?
 
Hmmm, don't think so, you sure you're not using a android phone. 😂

iPhone is always in beast mode 24/7.
 
Hmmm, don't think so, you sure you're not using a android phone. 😂

iPhone is always in beast mode 24/7.
iPhone is definitely not Android in 2021, since even Pixel 4a can maintain 90fps during daily use, while iPhone 12 Pro Max is struggling for 60fps.
 
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iPhone is definitely not Android in 2021, since even Pixel 4a can maintain 90fps during daily use, while iPhone 12 Pro Max is struggling for 60fps.
What’s wrong with 60hz?🤔

My iPhone 12 Pro Max is running silky smooth on 60hz. 🤷‍♂️

Don’t get sucked in by all this 120hz marketing gibberish.
 
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What’s wrong with 6tay0hz?🤔

My iPhone 12 Pro Max is running silky smooth on 60hz. 🤷‍♂️

Don’t get sucked in by all this 120hz marketing gibberish.
It's crazy that you call it "smooth".
1. iOS 14 could very easily fall below 60fps during daily use.
2. Even if it runs at 60fps sometimes, 60fps on iPhone 12 Pro Max feels like 60fps on an iPad, every action you lags behind your finger. If you're used to an iPad Pro display, you'll never call 60fps on a 6.7-inch display "smooth".
 
It's crazy that you call it "smooth".
1. iOS 14 could very easily fall below 60fps during daily use.
2. Even if it runs at 60fps sometimes, 60fps on iPhone 12 Pro Max feels like 60fps on an iPad, every action you lags behind your finger. If you're used to an iPad Pro display, you'll never call 60fps on a 6.7-inch display "smooth".
I have a iPad Pro 😁
 
It's crazy that you call it "smooth".
1. iOS 14 could very easily fall below 60fps during daily use.
2. Even if it runs at 60fps sometimes, 60fps on iPhone 12 Pro Max feels like 60fps on an iPad, every action you lags behind your finger. If you're used to an iPad Pro display, you'll never call 60fps on a 6.7-inch display "smooth".
I had the ROGPHONE 3 and Note 20 Ultra... ROG with 144Hz and N20U with 120Hz... i dont miss any of them... if it was a big screen yes of course its good. But a small screen its just pointless. Dont get me wrong,its good but not a deal breaker for me. And if your iPhone 12 Pro Max lags behind your finger you should get it checked because its been a month since i got the 12 Pro Max and i dont have that issue.
 
It's crazy that you call it "smooth".
1. iOS 14 could very easily fall below 60fps during daily use.
2. Even if it runs at 60fps sometimes, 60fps on iPhone 12 Pro Max feels like 60fps on an iPad, every action you lags behind your finger. If you're used to an iPad Pro display, you'll never call 60fps on a 6.7-inch display "smooth".
I don’t notice a difference between my ipad Pro and my phone. I do notice on my iPad when I turn it off. I think for a screen that size it simply matters less.
 
I have a iPad Pro 😁
I'd say a lot of you are not sensitive enough to frame rate, especially some sudden frame rate drops. As a developer, it's possible that I'm much more sensitive to this type of issue.
 
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I don’t notice a difference between my ipad Pro and my phone. I do notice on my iPad when I turn it off. I think for a screen that size it simply matters less.
So do you find the difference between ProMotion on/off on iPad Pro? Try iPad Pro with ProMotion off and I think you'll understand what I'm saying.
 
I had the ROGPHONE 3 and Note 20 Ultra... ROG with 144Hz and N20U with 120Hz... i dont miss any of them... if it was a big screen yes of course its good. But a small screen its just pointless. Dont get me wrong,its good but not a deal breaker for me. And if your iPhone 12 Pro Max lags behind your finger you should get it checked because its been a month since i got the 12 Pro Max and i dont have that issue.
It's true that even with 120Hz display, Android animation still sucks because they're poorly designed and unintuitive, but It has nothing to do with the fact that 120Hz feels much better than 60, and iOS 14 couldn't even maintain 60.
And I'm quite sure that this is not a hardware issue of my device, because I've noticed the same kind of lag on every exhibition unit in the Apple Store.
Fun fact: according to my test at the Apple Store, iPhone XR/11/SE feels smoother than all OLED iPhones, and iPhone 12 mini feels smoother than iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro. iPhone 12 Pro Max is the worst among all iPhones.
 
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What’s wrong with 60hz?🤔

My iPhone 12 Pro Max is running silky smooth on 60hz. 🤷‍♂️

Don’t get sucked in by all this 120hz marketing gibberish.
I thought the same, but its simply not true. I flip back and forth between phones and my last endeavor was a pixel 4 running at 90hz. Like you I thought iPhones are smooth no matter what, but when returning to the iPhone it was immediately noticeable and was definitely a downgrade in that respect. Once iPhone's have 120 or whatever they will be the most buttery around, but right now it's a no go.
 
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I'd say a lot of you are not sensitive enough to frame rate, especially some sudden frame rate drops. As a developer, it's possible that I'm much more sensitive to this type of issue.

yep you are special all right. I have an iPad Pro as well and still call my iPhone 12 pro max 'smooth.' If that makes me insensitive so be it. My wife would agree with you 😂. Thank goodness my iPhone doesn't ask me to listen to its feelings.

To me the iPhone is a tool. Maybe 120 hz is better, I don't care (see there is my being insensitive again). The iPhone does the job just fine and I really don't feel the need to pay more for 'better' that I don't see being a problem.

edit: and no, I don't see a difference in frame rate at night versus day.
 
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This may sound ridiculous, but I've noticed that since iOS 14, both my iPhone 12 Pro Max and my iPhone XS Max feels smoother at night than in the day. To make it clear, my iPhones have faster animation, higher animation frame rate and less micro stutter from about 9pm to 9am everyday. Is there anyone with the similar issue?
Yes I notice this as well. You are not crazy, it just seems some of us unfortunately are very sensitive to the frame drops, stuttering, etc thats been plaguing a lot of other people on iOS 14, specifically ios 14.4. I think its directly related to this bug that TONS of people have.


Its WAY more noticeable on iPad pro too with ProMotion. LOTS of micro stutters, frame drops. Feels like it drops to 25 FPS when scrolling and its all random which is the problem. The only constant indeed is that I notice its not perfect but much smoother at night.
 
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I'd say a lot of you are not sensitive enough to frame rate, especially some sudden frame rate drops. As a developer, it's possible that I'm much more sensitive to this type of issue.
Agreed, that if someone doesn't notice this on an iPad Pro then ProMotion is totally pointless for them , haha. The micro stuttering on 120hz is like daggers to my retinas. Like constant shifts from 120fps to 25 fps is VERY JARRING.

PS Im jealous of those who dont notice this stuff.
 
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It's true that even with 120Hz display, Android animation still sucks because they're poorly designed and unintuitive, but It has nothing to do with the fact that 120Hz feels much better than 60, and iOS 14 couldn't even maintain 60.
And I'm quite sure that this is not a hardware issue of my device, because I've noticed the same kind of lag on every exhibition unit in the Apple Store.
Fun fact: according to my test at the Apple Store, iPhone XR/11/SE feels smoother than all OLED iPhones, and iPhone 12 mini feels smoother than iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro. iPhone 12 Pro Max is the worst among all iPhones. If i still had my Rogphone 3 or N20U i could definitely see the difference...
Scrolling definitely feels super smooth. Scrolling through Gallery especially :D you could feel the difference. But for me it really isnt really a deal breaker. And it was supposed to be good for games but not all games support 120Hz/144Hz yet so its quite a bummer. I remembered locking my N20U Refresh Rate to 90Hz and it felt better. But as for the touch lag i really dont have it. Everythings fine on my 12 Pro Max.
 
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Scrolling definitely feels super smooth. Scrolling through Gallery especially :D you could feel the difference. But for me it really isnt really a deal breaker. And it was supposed to be good for games but not all games support 120Hz/144Hz yet so its quite a bummer. I remembered locking my N20U Refresh Rate to 90Hz and it felt better. But as for the touch lag i really dont have it. Everythings fine on my 12 Pro Max.
There is no touch lag, fake news, just the odd small stutter when opening/closing apps from time to time. People reporting it’s been fixed on iOS 14.5 😁

Everything working flawlessly on my 12 pro max also. 👌
 
There is no touch lag, fake news, just the odd small stutter when opening/closing apps from time to time. People reporting it’s been fixed on iOS 14.5 😁

Everything working flawlessly on my 12 pro max also. 👌
i have touch lag on my $50 Android phone(Redmi GO) though o_O
 
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Scrolling definitely feels super smooth. Scrolling through Gallery especially :D you could feel the difference. But for me it really isnt really a deal breaker. And it was supposed to be good for games but not all games support 120Hz/144Hz yet so its quite a bummer. I remembered locking my N20U Refresh Rate to 90Hz and it felt better. But as for the touch lag i really dont have it. Everythings fine on my 12 Pro Max.
The "touch lag" I'm saying refers to the feeling that the animation is 2 or 3 frames behind my finger (which may not be a issue for a lot of users), and it's really annoying for me.
 
The "touch lag" I'm saying refers to the feeling that the animation is 2 or 3 frames behind my finger (which may not be a issue for a lot of users), and it's really annoying for me.
ah now that reminds me on Android users can turn off animations and its way faster. so its instant. i get you now.
 
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The "touch lag" I'm saying refers to the feeling that the animation is 2 or 3 frames behind my finger (which may not be a issue for a lot of users), and it's really annoying for me.
No such thing as touch lag on iOS 😃
 
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