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durija

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I have heard conflicting advice on this. Right now, I have my screen set to go black after a while on my newer iMac 20", but I am sure this does next to nothing for conserving power or hardware. When I have let the machine sleep, I often have minor problems when it wakes up (not seeing the mouse being the most common).

So do I really gain much by powering things down into sleep mode, or maybe do I pay a price by all the spinning up and down of the disks, fans, etc.? Opinions welcome!
 
I have a Mac Pro and have it go to sleep after an hour of non-operation. I don't know if it protects it at all as the video turns off after 15 min. and the HDD turns off after 30 min. but it eases my mind. Plus the video card fan can be loud at times so going to sleep stops it from running.
 
I leave mine on 24/7 cause i keep it there to down/upload torrents all day long. The only thing i do is set a hot corner to sleep the display and that's it.

If PCs are able to be left on months at a time, i figure so can my mac pro.

I've never had a problem leaving my old self built PC on all the time and never had HD failure or anything. Plus, if you leave it on all the time, the hardware isn't going to "die". It's designed to last for a lot longer than you'll have your imac.
 
I leave mine on 24/7 cause i keep it there to down/upload torrents all day long. The only thing i do is set a hot corner to sleep the display and that's it.

If PCs are able to be left on months at a time, i figure so can my mac pro.

I've never had a problem leaving my old self built PC on all the time and never had HD failure or anything. Plus, if you leave it on all the time, the hardware isn't going to "die". It's designed to last for a lot longer than you'll have your imac.

Be careful with torrent dude. I received a copyright infringement letter to cease and desist. It was a warning so no lawsuits are going to be pressed. And I did it like 2 times.
I'm a clean downloader from now on :)

Oh, and to give you some feedback about sleep/awake, I personally put mine to sleep when not using it. Not sure if it helps for sure or not but I like to think that it isn't heating up while not using it.
 
Be careful with torrent dude. I received a copyright infringement letter to cease and desist. It was a warning so no lawsuits are going to be pressed. And I did it like 2 times.
I'm a clean downloader from now on :)

Not to hijack the thread, but who did you get this letter from? I got one about a year ago from Comcast claiming they had received a complaint from the copyright holder. Like you I'm now clean too.
 
I have heard conflicting advice on this. Right now, I have my screen set to go black after a while on my newer iMac 20", but I am sure this does next to nothing for conserving power or hardware. When I have let the machine sleep, I often have minor problems when it wakes up (not seeing the mouse being the most common).

So do I really gain much by powering things down into sleep mode, or maybe do I pay a price by all the spinning up and down of the disks, fans, etc.? Opinions welcome!

Well, there is the obvious environmental benefit of shutting down rather than using more electricity. Carbon footprint anyone...
 
Well, there is the obvious environmental benefit of shutting down rather than using more electricity. Carbon footprint anyone...

I always kept my Windows PC awake, aside from the display, and I'm doing the same with my new Imac, because I like to have the machine instantly available when I want to take a quick look at something or do a quick email. To be frank I never had a PC hardware failure, other than a DVD drive, when the system was on 24/7.

The Imac certainly seems to use less energy than my PC ever did, what with the PC's three hard drives, three whirring fans, big power supply, five PCI cards and the AGP card, etc. Does anyone know how much energy a new 24" Imac uses when the display is asleep, and the machine is awake, but idle?
 
I always kept my Windows PC awake, aside from the display, and I'm doing the same with my new Imac, because I like to have the machine instantly available when I want to take a quick look at something or do a quick email.

It's just my oppinion but I think this is a pretty irresponsible position. With everyone worrying about energy usage, it's sad that someone can't wait 10 seconds for a computer to wake up or 30-40 seconds to boot up.

Sorry... went a bit eco warrior there...
 
If you choose to sleep a desktop such as an iMac, I would make sure that it is plugged into a backup battery supply. We had a power failure tonight while I was gone and it was out for a few hours. Because I always sleep my iMac and it was connected to the backup power, it happily stayed sleeping during the power failure and all my open programs were still as I left them when I slept the iMac. If I didn't have the power supply, the computer would have lost power and shut down losing what I had open.
 
Well, there is the obvious environmental benefit of shutting down rather than using more electricity. Carbon footprint anyone...

I keep mine in sleep mode when not in use, it heating my room significantly, I think this is good at this time of the year because I use less gas for heating this way.
 
It's just my oppinion but I think this is a pretty irresponsible position. With everyone worrying about energy usage, it's sad that someone can't wait 10 seconds for a computer to wake up or 30-40 seconds to boot up.

Sorry... went a bit eco warrior there...

OK. You have a point. I just put my Imac on a sleep-after-3-hour schedule and to wake automatically at 6 am. I'll see how that goes.
 
When I have let the machine sleep, I often have minor problems when it wakes up (not seeing the mouse being the most common).

You shouldn't have problems like that. My Mac never has any problems waking from sleep. Maybe you should contact Apple support or check out the Apple support forums to see whether there's something you can do to correct the problem.

That said, I keep my iMac awake until midnight every day because I use it as a music server. I wish there was some way to get airtunes to wake a mac from sleep.
 
If you choose to sleep a desktop such as an iMac, I would make sure that it is plugged into a backup battery supply. We had a power failure tonight while I was gone and it was out for a few hours. Because I always sleep my iMac and it was connected to the backup power, it happily stayed sleeping during the power failure and all my open programs were still as I left them when I slept the iMac. If I didn't have the power supply, the computer would have lost power and shut down losing what I had open.

Intel Macs all use safe sleep mode (hibernation) with the RAM data written to the hard disk just in case. You don't need to worry about losing power while in sleep mode as the RAM data would simply be recovered from the file written to the hard disk (/private var vm sleepimage).
 
You shouldn't have problems like that. My Mac never has any problems waking from sleep. Maybe you should contact Apple support or check out the Apple support forums to see whether there's something you can do to correct the problem.

I usually have to unplug and replug my mouse to get it to work after coming out of a snooze. I have checked on this and a few other forums and haven't had any luck. I think it is a USB issue in Leopard. I have to jump through hoops to get my thumb drive to mount also. Maybe I should report it to Apple as a bug.

The primary reason for sleep (for me) is to reduce power consumption. But I am also interested in what is best for hardware longevity.

Thanks for all the replies so far.
 
It's just my oppinion but I think this is a pretty irresponsible position. With everyone worrying about energy usage, it's sad that someone can't wait 10 seconds for a computer to wake up or 30-40 seconds to boot up.

Sorry... went a bit eco warrior there...

Don't apologize. People need to hear this stuff- absolutely. Your post is 100% on the money.
 
I wish time machine had a variable backup interval. I like my machine to sleep after 2 hours, but since time machine is working every hour it keeps the machine awake (Mac Pro). Right now the only workaround is to have it sleep after 59 minutes or so.

Is there a plist file to change time machine backup intervals?
 
Intel Macs all use safe sleep mode (hibernation) with the RAM data written to the hard disk just in case. You don't need to worry about losing power while in sleep mode as the RAM data would simply be recovered from the file written to the hard disk (/private var vm sleepimage).

Not exactly true. If you put a laptop into sleep mode, it will use a small amount of battery power to preserve it's sleep state. The same thing applies while sleeping a desktop, they still use a small amount of power. Read the FAQ that was linked to in this thread, it says the same thing.
 
Be careful with torrent dude. I received a copyright infringement letter to cease and desist. It was a warning so no lawsuits are going to be pressed. And I did it like 2 times.
I'm a clean downloader from now on

Oh, and to give you some feedback about sleep/awake, I personally put mine to sleep when not using it. Not sure if it helps for sure or not but I like to think that it isn't heating up while not using it.


Can you send a copy of the letter to me at mperkins37 at cox.net?
My wife is a high school teacher in the Macintosh lab & she has students downloading stuff illegally all the time, she asked if I could make one up for her to scare the hell out of the offenders. :D
 
Not exactly true. If you put a laptop into sleep mode, it will use a small amount of battery power to preserve it's sleep state. The same thing applies while sleeping a desktop, they still use a small amount of power. Read the FAQ that was linked to in this thread, it says the same thing.

I think SaSaSushi was implying that if the power went out while the iMac was asleep, it would still wake up again without rebooting (albeit more slowly).
 
I usually have to unplug and replug my mouse to get it to work after coming out of a snooze. I have checked on this and a few other forums and haven't had any luck. I think it is a USB issue in Leopard. I have to jump through hoops to get my thumb drive to mount also. Maybe I should report it to Apple as a bug.

The primary reason for sleep (for me) is to reduce power consumption. But I am also interested in what is best for hardware longevity.

Thanks for all the replies so far.

Do you have a regular Apple mouse? I've never had this issue. You should definitely contact tech support, or post a question in the Apple support forums.
 
I wish time machine had a variable backup interval. I like my machine to sleep after 2 hours, but since time machine is working every hour it keeps the machine awake (Mac Pro). Right now the only workaround is to have it sleep after 59 minutes or so.

Is there a plist file to change time machine backup intervals?

Yes, I just discovered/realized that today. After being reprimanded by an eco-friendly poster here about leaving my machine awake 24/7, I tried to set a 3-hour sleep interval, and of course it didn't work, because of Time Machine's hourly backup to my external USB drive. Then I went into Time Machine's settings, and further discovered that there is no option to change the backup interval (I'd be happy with a daily backup). I am not going to set the sleep interval to less than an hour, because that will result in having to wake the machine a half-dozen times or more every evening, which I believe (rightly or wrongly) to be unhealthy for the hardware and will probably use more energy than it saves. So the question is: can the Time Machine backup interval be changed, and how?
 
Do you have a regular Apple mouse? I've never had this issue. You should definitely contact tech support, or post a question in the Apple support forums.

That might explain part of it. I dumped the mighty mouse on day one. I'll have to see if I can find it tonight and try that.

It still doesn't explain my usb flash drive not mounting half the time. It mounts right up on a Tiger machine at work.

I still think there is a Leopard/my iMac/USB issue of some kind.
 
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