Since Apple has turn down Real offer: could it be that Real is dying a slow death? These guys are more than 250 million in the red! Look at it this way; with so many itunes software are out there now and soon to even more with the partnership with HP, with itunes you get QT. QT will have a huge base and will indeed surpass Real. In a year or two after iTunes hit Europe and the fact that Windozs have to open themselves to others media players. This is a very good thing for Apple. For all those who think it was a bad idea that Apple turn down Real....THINK about it who needs them...they are dying!!!!