Is the IPhone 4s a 4G device?

[Avon4447]

What do you guys think about AT&T trying to call the iPhone 4S a 4G device? In the unveiling, Apple said they didn't want to get into the debate of what constitutes 4G speeds, but they claim double download and upload speeds with the dual antennas. Of course we all know download speeds depend on the carrier and your location, but what do you think?

So, is the iPhone 4S a 4G device across all carriers? Do you think Verizon will say this phone takes advantage of it's LTE network?

 

[-Ozzy-]

What do you guys think about AT&T trying to call the iPhone 4S a 4G device? In the unveiling, Apple said they didn't want to get into the debate of what constitutes 4G speeds, but they claim double download and upload speeds with the dual antennas. Of course we all know download speeds depend on the carrier and your location, but what do you think?

So, is the iPhone 4S a 4G device across all carriers? Do you think Verizon will say this phone takes advantage of it's LTE network?

I do believe the att iphone will receive "4G" signal from day one, as they stated that HSDPA+ will be picked up by the iphone. IRC, that's atts "4G"

The iPhone 4s was not manufactured to read LTE signal.

 

[shadrap]

Faux G

 

[destroyboredom]

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I think most people that care about speed, the geeks, know that 4G has just become a marketing term. Everyone knows the iPhone is not LTE. I view hspa+ as like 3.5G.

 

[Chundles]

Faux G

This. I think the people who govern the "3G, 4G etc." nomenclature have said that if the speed is right you can advertise it as 4G but technically it's not.

LTE isn't even 4G, to get true 4G you need to be using LTE-advanced or WirelessMAN-Advanced, neither of which are available anywhere as far as I'm aware.

 

[Menel]

What do you guys think about AT&T trying to call the iPhone 4S a 4G device? In the unveiling, Apple said they didn't want to get into the debate of what constitutes 4G speeds, but they claim double download and upload speeds with the dual antennas. Of course we all know download speeds depend on the carrier and your location, but what do you think? So, is the iPhone 4S a 4G device across all carriers? Do you think Verizon will say this phone takes advantage of it's LTE network?

By the ITU Standards body, ATT, T-Mobile, Rogers, HTC, LG, and Samsung, the iPhone 4S is a 4G device.

By some angsty ignorant anonymous forum trolls, it is not.

 

[shadrap]

So wi max is 4G? Guess LTE is 5G and LTE advanced is 6G.

 

[Menel]

So wi max is 4G? Guess LTE is 5G and LTE advanced is 6G.

No! Those are ALL 4G.

Essentially saying 4G is meaningless without further clarification.

 

[buryyourbrideau]

By the ITU Standards body, ATT, T-Mobile, Rogers, HTC, LG, and Samsung, the iPhone 4S is a 4G device.

By some angsty ignorant anonymous forum trolls, it is not.

So HSPA is 4G and LTE is 4G?

ATT: "Hey look, we're launching our first 4G phone tod...er wait.