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Tony Danger

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As the title? I’ve got some games that require secure boot, BF6 beta being one of them. The MPro should play them no bother except the requirement of SecureBoot.

I went through the Mac settings with cmd+r but all that does is stops windows 11 from booting…
 
Technically windows 11 isn’t supported with the 2019 Mac Pro as it uses apples T2 chip rather than a TPM module. So I’m guessing it is probably the reason why.

When you go into the settings there’s no UEFI settings section to enable it.
 
What the wider industry refers to as Secure Boot is, for a Mac user, better referred to as UEFI Secure Boot to differentiate from Apple Secure Boot used on Macs.

You see, while Intel Macs are technically UEFI devices, and UEFI Standards are set by an independent group that includes Apple and Microsoft, it was clear to Apple from the start, and accurately so as it transpired, that the big gorilla in the room, Microsoft, would become the de facto specifier of UEFI standards; being gatekeeper and actual determiner of the standards equipment makers must meet.

Today, you basically cannot, one way or another, implement UEFI Secure Boot on the equipment you make without Microsoft's blessing and Apple was never going to go along with this. Hence, Apple has always never fully compiled with UEFI specs ... at least not in an orthodox manner as this invariably meant Microsoft control.

Long story short, any user space app requiring UEFI Secure Boot, basically abusing this feature, excludes Apple Macs where this is not implemented and Apple's version is instead.

I wonder though, whether a third party Boot Manager like RefindPlus might be able to spoof UEFI Secure Boot being switched on.
 
I wonder though, whether a third party Boot Manager like RefindPlus might be able to spoof UEFI Secure Boot being switched on.

Scary ... We are being watched by the Bots:
 
Hi,

Don't know if this is helpful but according to this sounds like EA is not enforcing TPM being enabled on Windows 10 yet.

I saw a comment from a random guy on another reddit thread mentioned he managed to make BF6 run on his mac pro 2019 via bootcamp by "reinstalling windows 10", but he vanished and hasn't said anything since.

Sounds like a potential way of making this work is to install Windows 10 instead and enabling secure boot, forgoing the TPM requirement. I can't test it yet as I don't have a mac pro 2019 with me atm, but will give it a go in a month or so when I do.

Do feel free to give it a try though and report back! Good luck!
 
Sounds like a potential way of making this work is to install Windows 10 instead and enabling secure boot, forgoing the TPM requirement.

There is no way to enable Microsoft/UEFI SecureBoot with 2019 Mac Pro. Apple Secure Boot and Microsoft/UEFI SecureBoot are not the same thing…
 
There is no way to enable Microsoft/UEFI SecureBoot with 2019 Mac Pro. Apple Secure Boot and Microsoft/UEFI SecureBoot are not the same thing…
Sorry mate, but that's not quite correct. Read here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102522

What you can't do is enable TPM 2.0 secure boot (extra layer of security) that is now also mandatory on fresh W11 installs.
That's why one of the workarounds to install W11 on bootcamp is to upgrade from W10, as it forgoes the extra requirement of TPM 2.0 (that macs don't have).
 
Sorry mate, but that's not quite correct. Read here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102522

What you can't do is enable TPM 2.0 secure boot (extra layer of security) that is now also mandatory on fresh W11 installs.
That's why one of the workarounds to install W11 on bootcamp is to upgrade from W10, as it forgoes the extra requirement of TPM 2.0 (that macs don't have).

Seems you are missing the fact that Apple Secure Boot (notice the space and related to macOS) is not UEFI SecureBoot - completely different things and you can't enable UEFI SecureBoot with Macs.
 
Seems you don't know that Apple Secure Boot (notice the space and related to macOS) is not UEFI SecureBoot - completely different things and you can't enable UEFI SecureBoot with Macs.
I know perfectly well what UEFI SecureBoot and Apple Secure Boot are.
What I'm telling you is that Windows 10 on bootcamp recognises secureboot=ON if you install it with full security on on the T2 chip.
Windows 11 won't work (as a fresh install) as "secure boot" on Windows 11 also includes having TPM 2.0 enabled.
 
I know perfectly well what UEFI SecureBoot and Apple Secure Boot are.
What I'm telling you is that Windows 10 on bootcamp recognises secureboot=ON if you install it with full security on on the T2 chip.
Windows 11 won't work (as a fresh install) as "secure boot" on Windows 11 also includes having TPM 2.0 enabled.

So, did you ever tested?!?
 
I sold my Mac Pro and built a gaming PC, so it's not an issue for em any longer!
 
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