iPhone 12 Pro Is there any way to get all of my saved passwords, text conversations and settings on my new phone without restoring from iCloud?

[TH55]

I just got a new 12 and I jailbroke it so I don’t want to update the iOS which I was told I would have to do in order to restore from my iCloud backup. Is there any other way to get my
Safari passwords, text conversations and phone numbers without restoring from backup?

Whats strange is that somehow my photos, some of my keyboard shortcuts and numbers all appeared on my phone after being plugged in with WiFi on. Does this automatically sync your phone with iCloud and put all of that info on it? If so, why did everyone say there was no way of doing this without updating iOS? If I want all of my content and settings from my old phone on it so I just manually select them in iCloud settings? Thanks!

 

[RRC]

Set the phone up as new, then log in to your iCloud and everything should be available password wise.

 

[canuckRus]

Can't you merely put old phone next to new and transfer to set it up?

 

[TH55]

Set the phone up as new, then log in to your iCloud and everything should be available password wise.

Why did people tell me I couldn’t restore from iCloud backup without updating?

 

[ApfelKuchen]

Why did people tell me I couldn’t restore from iCloud backup without updating?

There's a difference between restoring from a backup (either iTunes or iCloud) and simply signing into the iCloud account without restoring from a backup.

Restoring from backup requires the same version of iOS (or newer) as was in use on the original device (old iPhone has iOS 14.5, then the new iPhone must have iOS 14.5 or newer to be able to restore from the backup).

However, simply signing into iCloud does not require matching/upgrading iOS. Data that syncs continuously via iCloud (iCloud Photos, contacts, calendars, reminders, notes, iCloud Drive, Messages in iCloud, and more) is not version-dependent and will populate the device following sign-in.

Basically, the apps/functions that appear with On/Off switches in iCloud Settings are synched data (when On) and part of a backup (when Off). The rule-of-thumb is, if it is not being synced continuously (or has not yet had a chance to sync, such as photos that have not yet been uploaded to iCloud Photos), then it is part of the overnight backup.

 

[TH55]

There's a difference between restoring from a backup (either iTunes or iCloud) and simply signing into the iCloud account without restoring from a backup.

Restoring from backup requires the same version of iOS (or newer) as was in use on the original device (old iPhone has iOS 14.5, then the new iPhone must have iOS 14.5 or newer to be able to restore from the backup).

However, simply signing into iCloud does not require matching/upgrading iOS. Data that syncs continuously via iCloud (iCloud Photos, contacts, calendars, reminders, notes, iCloud Drive, Messages in iCloud, and more) is not version-dependent and will populate the device following sign-in.

Basically, the apps/functions that appear with On/Off switches in iCloud Settings are synched data (when On) and part of a backup (when Off). The rule-of-thumb is, if it is not being synced continuously (or has not yet had a chance to sync, such as photos that have not yet been uploaded to iCloud Photos), then it is part of the overnight backup.

Gotcha, thanks. What determines which phone is favored when they “sync?”

 

[ApfelKuchen]

Gotcha, thanks. What determines which phone is favored when they “sync?”

Neither is favored. That's the nature of cloud syncing. The data is centrally stored in iCloud and (when all is working as it should), syncs equally to all devices signed into the account.

Cloud sync is a hub-and-spoke arrangement, with the cloud as the hub and the devices as spokes. Any of the spokes may have new data (or deletions), which is earmarked to be pushed up to the cloud. When received by the cloud server the changes are then pushed back down to all devices.

 

[TH55]

Neither is favored. That's the nature of cloud syncing. The data is centrally stored in iCloud and (when all is working as it should), syncs equally to all devices signed into the account.

Cloud sync is a hub-and-spoke arrangement, with the cloud as the hub and the devices as spokes. Any of the spokes may have new data (or deletions), which is earmarked to be pushed up to the cloud. When received by the cloud server the changes are then pushed back down to all devices.

What about settings like Home Screen icon layout, contact favorites and bookmarks order?

 

[ApfelKuchen]

What about settings like Home Screen icon layout, contact favorites and bookmarks order?

It depends. Home Screen icon layout is never synchronized to other devices - it's part of the "overnight" backup. Contact Favorites is done within the Phone app - it is not part of Contacts app data. That, also, is not synchronized to iCloud (it's device-specific). Bookmarks depends on whether you're syncing your bookmarks in iCloud (there's a setting for that).