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Is TPM 2.0 requirement good for Win11 or...
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Windows 11 is just a reskinned windows 10 but much worse. (Start menu is an APP!?). The TPM 2.0 requirement is usually considered part of their “imaginary” requirement.
I Don’t think windows 11 would force you to buy a new computer, but it is an attempt to beef up windows security and wash some of those bad reps about windows nowadays.
I Don’t think windows 11 would force you to buy a new computer, but it is an attempt to beef up windows security and wash some of those bad reps about windows nowadays.
Even Zen 1 of AMD does not have TMP 2.0 which was from year 2017, should be only CPU within 4 years would have TMP 2.0.
Maybe, maybe not. They have to draw the line somewhere if they want to beef up their security. I'd say their list of supported CPUs is more of an "imaginary" requirement, but Apple does this too. It's really no different than Apple saying which devices support new versions of macOS... Many older Macs are capable of running newer/unsupported macOS versions with the use of OCLP.
My Dell XPS from 2015 has TPM 2.0 but the processor isn't supported. Fortunately, they just give a warning and I'm able to install it anyway. It runs perfectly fine.
For those that have a Dell purchased in 2015 or later, it's likely you can upgrade your TPM module to 2.0.
Other brands, such as HP, have something similar as well.
support.hp.com
My Dell XPS from 2015 has TPM 2.0 but the processor isn't supported. Fortunately, they just give a warning and I'm able to install it anyway. It runs perfectly fine.
For those that have a Dell purchased in 2015 or later, it's likely you can upgrade your TPM module to 2.0.
Other brands, such as HP, have something similar as well.
HP Desktops, Notebooks, and Workstations - HP TPM Configuration Utility With Windows 10 Anniversary Edition Compatible TPM Firmware | HP® Support
Upgrade or convert TPM firmware to 1.2 or 2.0 by using the steps in this document.
The Windows 11 supported CPU list is kinda bogus. Windows Update in Windows 10 seems to go by it regarding if it will serve you the windows 11 upgrade or not. The installer itself will however only check if you have UEFI boot, safe boot and TPM enabled, and it accepts version 1.2 without any issue.
All those three things can be circumvented with modifications made to the installer, as most people have learned, but that's another story. In any and all cases, future software might expect you to run Windows 11 the way Microsoft intended, and might start having issues for those who don't.
All those three things can be circumvented with modifications made to the installer, as most people have learned, but that's another story. In any and all cases, future software might expect you to run Windows 11 the way Microsoft intended, and might start having issues for those who don't.
The CPU and TPM are separate components on the motherboard.
Someone could have a new/supported CPU, but have no TPM; or an old/unsupported CPU, but have a supported TPM version.
Speaking strictly Intel (I haven't kept track on AMD). Haswell (4th gen) and onwards included "firmware TPM", refered to as PTT, but only for chipsets accompanying low-power CPUs aka Ultrabook-class laptops pretty much. This changed with Skylake (6th gen+) where it's included pretty much across the range. This kind of TPM is done either in the South Bridge but as I understand it with Kaby Lake onwards (7th gen) PTT *might* have moved it into the CPU itself.
It is enabled though UEFI and usually labeled "Intel Platform Trust Technology"
Desktop motherboards for 2nd-3rd gen and onwards can come with a TPM-connector for connecting a physical TPM module. These are usually vendor specific and can be found on ebay and the like. (Do note that it is really rare for a 2nd gen core-i processor to be paired up with such a motherboard, however. Those boards came when 3rd gen launched)
Should also be mentioned I suppose that Macs, old and new, has no support for TPM either through firmware or with a physical chip. The T2 chip and secure enclave serves a similar purpose, though enchanced, but is not supported by Windows.
Oh yeah I forgot to differentiate between them. It is true that 6th gen and onwards has PTT compliant with TPM 2.0
I installed Proxmox VE hypervisor, which supports TPM 2.0 emulation, install Windows as a guest OS, then use MS RDP client from any macOS or iOS device, from anywhere on the world, and even from 35,000 feet in the air.
All I know is that I have an i7 @ 3.8 ghz, 32 gb of DDR4 ram, 2 TB NVME SSD and an NVIDIA 4 GB video card (can´t recall the model, but its not that old) monster of a gaming laptop and it won´t upgrade because of a fairly ridiculous requirement.
The computer crushes every spec, but that TPM....
I think the TPM is a push to get people to upgrade their PC's or buy new ones personally. I bought a TPM chip for my Asus motherboard so I could upgrade to Windows 11. Visually I like Windows 11, not sure of any major differences other then things looking more modern.