I am not interested in the new features, but I would upgrade now if Ventura is faster. How does it look to you?
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Is Ventura faster than Monterey?
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Feels just as fast and snappy to me when I upgraded. No complaints here in my m2 air, benchmarks actually went up a bit for Geekbench multicore.
Monterey was another love/hate OS like Catalina was for me. I liked it but it had quirks. My M1 obviously runs it perfectly, my 2017 14,3 runs it great although there is lag in the system settings but no where else. I would say that it's just as fast as 12.x and maybe just a bit snappier too. I found on the MBP it seems to run at least 10 degrees cooler as well. I have 13.1 booting from a 980 Pro in an Acasis TB enclosure and I get around 2400 R/W which is much better than the 256 SSD internal this machine has, overall I am happy I upgraded.
what are you expecting? the new OS doesn't change your hardware, your processor speed. here, ventura seems as fast as monterey... ie much the same (altho i will say that my apps seem to open faster on my intel-era imac)...
wait. you reverted your OS because of system settings? hmmm. i use my mac to run apps (like mail, safari, my work apps, etc), and the GUI of settings (where i rarely need to go) would not deter me from using a new, improved OS (but that's just me... and many others...) 🤔
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Nope, i didnt say that did i? I had multiple crashes, mainly from using mail effing up everytime I tried to load it up, not loading etc etc
Random crashes, green screen.......
I always update to the latest OS but this one is ****. Gone back to Monty until they have about 63 million updates before I upgrade again.
a. you said " I don't see much difference between the two apart from the crap system prefs"; you made no reference to anything else.
b. you always have the option of pursuing fixes for issues (ie with the help of ppl on this forum). the OS is fine for most people, but like every single mac OS before it, there are those who have issues (just check the forums for any OS version on macrumors).
you chose to revert instead of looking for fixes; that's your right, of course.
I got my fix by going back to something that actually worked for me
I decided to try to move from Mojave to Monterey or Ventura. I used Netgear NAS equip and depend on network running smooth. After using Monterey, that continually dropped remote shares on a regular basis, and file copying is painfully slow. I then tried installing Ventura. What a joke two days wasted the installer is slow the number of times it took to install and run this system boot then boot again and again. I initially install it clean, then using migration assistant to move files from my Mojave system into Ventura hung. Then I tried to install and update Ventura clean installation without migrating Mojave files, and it hung during the boot process every time. It imports apps that are later found to be broken. Don't get me started on the System Preferences, new look, what a mess. People wonder why Apple computer market share been stuck at less than 5%. It's time for me to move on to Linux.
Most of the time I would guess that it really depends on the hardware you have and how much your system is optimized for the newer OS. My M1 MacBook Pro runs fast on Ventura, but Monterey seemed to just work well overall with it (it was the first OS for it, so it was probably optimized for it). My MacBook Pro 2018 runs great on Ventura also. It is an Intel system, but surprisingly running cool, good and fast.
There are still some small bugs on Ventura, but we are on .3 now, so we have a few more versions to go before the next OS is released in the fall.
There are still some small bugs on Ventura, but we are on .3 now, so we have a few more versions to go before the next OS is released in the fall.
I have a Late 2018 Mac Mini 3.2GHz Intel Core i7 with Crucial 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 ram. They still allow upgrade to the latest, but really Apple putting iOS on their computers is not going to fly anymore with me since we can't depend on what Apple will do next with their OS. I'm back running Mojave, as it's the last Apple OS that was the most stable I found. Not going to shell out thousands for another system that will be dead inside 5 years.
Mojave generally (overall) at the end of its cycle was a decent OS. The issue now is that developers are moving on from Mojave compatibility, being that it is an aging OS.
If there is no need to use new or updated apps, Mojave is solid. Security...well...we take our chances, but if we are safe about what we install and the websites we go too, I think security is not much of a "scare" on Macs still...but again that could change soon..
What me really annoys is the low quality of the mac related news pages nowadays. Nowhere you can find a solid benchmark comparison, when Apple releases a new macos version. So all statements about Ventura's performance seem to be purely speculative.
But I found this benchmark regarding disk i/o speed:
So in Ventura, the disk speed seems to be quite drastically lowered.
As stated in the video above, the 3d drawing performance seem to be increased, I guess thanks to the introduction of Metal 3.
But I really would like to see a solid benchmark of multiple CPU and GPU tasks, recent Monterey vs. recent Ventura. This on a Intel machine and on a M1/M2(pro) machine. Anybody?
But I found this benchmark regarding disk i/o speed:
So in Ventura, the disk speed seems to be quite drastically lowered.
As stated in the video above, the 3d drawing performance seem to be increased, I guess thanks to the introduction of Metal 3.
But I really would like to see a solid benchmark of multiple CPU and GPU tasks, recent Monterey vs. recent Ventura. This on a Intel machine and on a M1/M2(pro) machine. Anybody?
i dropped 2 identically-configured macbook airs from the roof today, one running ventura, one running monterey; both hit the ground at the exact same time... 🤔
I haven't found any differences between Monterey and Ventura when it comes to speed. I upgraded to Ventura for weather, clock, hypervisor and universal control and am very happy with it. I was happy with Monterey around the 6th point release when they fixed all of the remaining bugs that I had with it.
Is the big deal about Ventura release is that it supports Metal 3? Is that only for gaming? I dunno..