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spaceballl

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Hi all,

So now i'm back up and running on my Macbook Pro (15" Penryn, base configuration w/ 4gb of RAM and a 7200rpm BTO hard drive). I've been Mac-less for the past month or so as I sold my previous Mac on ebay to prepare for this one, using my work PC laptop as a replacement. My mac history is as follows:

iBook G3 700mhz
iBook G4 1.2ghz
Macbook 2ghz (original model), 2gb RAM, 7200rpm 160gb drive
Current Macbook Pro

Just some thoughts...

Time Machine
What a painless process. I upgraded my Macbook to Leopard when it came out, and in December, I bought myself an external drive to use (Western Digital Passport 320gb). When I sold my macbook, I wiped out the hard drive. Thus, I was counting on the time machine backup to restore from. Got my new machine today and despite the fact that it said "3 hours" in the beginning, over 100GB of Data was copied over in less than an hour. I was VERY impressed. Recovering from a Time Machine backup seems to preserve everything from desktop backgrounds to system preferences settings, etc. Feels almost like I'm on my old macbook! Two thumbs up for Time Machine!

The Screen
What an impressive screen (i got the matte)! I felt the screen was fairly bright when I first started playing with it. Then I realized... it's on half brightness. Turning this thing up to max brightness is like staring at a flash light. Maybe the last gen of MBPs had great LED backlighting, but I can't really vouch for it, other than cursory looks at Apple stores and such. But this is great.

The Speed
It's very fast and snappy. All the apps seem to boot up very quickly. Firefox still isn't as fast as I'd like it to be, but there's some improvement. Apps that were always slugs, though, like NeoOffice, still are. I was hoping for a bit more improvement there. So while it's definitely faster than before, there's no "oh wow it's faster" effect. And this is coming from a Gen 1 macbook. Let me clarify. When I moved from my G3 700mhz iBook to the 1.2ghz G4 iBook, we were nearly doubling the clockspeed and moving to a new gen of processor. The speed increases were VERY apparent. Then moving from that to a dual core 2ghz Macbook was like woah, now os x is fast. Moving from a Macbook to here is really only a 20 percent clock speed increase, and I know it has more enhancements than just clockspeed, but the performance improvement is not as noticeable.

The Heat
This is the best part to me. So when I first loaded up this computer, I put this under some stress. I copied over 100 gigs of files. I downloaded a few weeks of missing podcasts. I imported over 100 new photos. I was browsing the web. I was installing vmware fusion, i was deleting parallels. etc. etc. etc. I was doing a lot. NEVER did the bottom of this laptop get above warm. If my macbook were put under this stress, it would get HOT. I've felt other newer macs and they all got really hot too. To me, the best part about the switch to Penryn is the heat. This thing stays between room temp and slightly warm at all times. This is in line with what i've read from other people.

Multitouch
eh - it's sorta useful i guess. Going back and forth between safari pages is fun using the 3 finger swipe. Also, rotating pictures in iPhoto with the touch pad is easier than clicking the rotate button. However, I don't think i'll really use these features. I know it's "the same" as on the iPhone, but... no it's not... haha. zooming in and out on an iPhone and watching the points on the picture scale exactly with your fingertips is totally separate from zooming in and out of finder windows. Your mileage may vary. Maybe you're in love with this feature. For me it looks great as a marketing bullet point, and it actually works pretty well, i just don't think it's that big of a deal


Let me know if you have any other questions for me. I'd be happy to answer!
 
I just wanted to second your comment about heat! It's the coolest running pro laptop Apple has made for many many years, at least since the pre-PPC era. Pretty amazing actually, and something that is worth a lot to those who are using their macbook pros as laptops.
 
Nice review and im just wondering how long does it take for it to boot up? When I first went from a imac g3 to the imac g5(which i still use) I noticed a huge difference in boot up times but now this feels slow compared to the new macs out there.

ChrisN
 
Nice review and im just wondering how long does it take for it to boot up? When I first went from a imac g3 to the imac g5(which i still use) I noticed a huge difference in boot up times but now this feels slow compared to the new macs out there.

ChrisN
I'll time it from start to finish for you in one sec.
 
I just wanted to second your comment about heat! It's the coolest running pro laptop Apple has made for many many years, at least since the pre-PPC era. Pretty amazing actually, and something that is worth a lot to those who are using their macbook pros as laptops.
Oh yeah for me this is by far the best feature. All of the changes have been pretty incremental for me. But the heat is NIGHT AND DAY.
im just wondering how long does it take for it to boot up?
37 seconds - and this is migrating from a Time Machine backup - I'd think it might be faster if you were on a fresh install.
 
Good review. I was coming from my 1.33 iBook to the new MBP and I can't believe how fast this machine is. I know some people were looking for a redesign, but I really love the current design. I also thought that there would be update to the newer keyboard layout. I was using the new keyboard, but I put that away since I got the MBP. I think I actually prefer the MBPs layout.

Anyway I'm glad you like your new MBP.
 
I just wanted to second your comment about heat! It's the coolest running pro laptop Apple has made for many many years, at least since the pre-PPC era. Pretty amazing actually, and something that is worth a lot to those who are using their macbook pros as laptops.

I've pointed this out before as well. The heat is not an issue. That for me is one of the best aspects of the new MBP's.
 
I've pointed this out before as well. The heat is not an issue. That for me is one of the best aspects of the new MBP's.



Agreed, i had a 2.4 SR Gen3 MBP and the heat wasnt horrible, but did spin the fans up quite loud when working with 3d. Now even when i am playing TF2 in bootcamp (win xp) @ 1440 * 900 with settings on high the fans dont speed up nearly as fast, and even cool it enough durring play they are able to return to the idle speed for a few mins before spining back up. I can play easily with this thing on my lap without loosing my family jewels.... something i couldn't do with my Gen3... btw i have the base model 2.4penryn
 
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