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As the title says. Is it still there as an app in Launchpad, or has it been replaced by the new Passwords app?

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it has moved to
/System/Library/CoreServices/Applications/Keychain Access.app
So it's not visible in Launchpad anymore?
I only ask because it will bother my "order" if another app has to go into the folder, ...and yes, I know I could just put the app in a different folder, but I have a certain order and setup right now that I'd rather not change (Yes, I have a little OCD) 😅
 
You could always make an alias to it.
It is perfectly fine if the keychain app disappears, if it is replaced by the Password app. I just don't want both the Password app and the Keychain app in Launchpad.
 
The two apps are in Launchpad. By default, Keychain Access is in the 'Other' folder and Passwords is on the main screen.

The two apps do different things. Passwords is just for passwords. Keychain Access holds other information in addition to passwords, so it doesn't really make sense that they'd hide/remove Keychain Access.
 
The two apps are in Launchpad. By default, Keychain Access is in the 'Other' folder and Passwords is on the main screen.

The two apps do different things. Passwords is just for passwords. Keychain Access holds other information in addition to passwords, so it doesn't really make sense that they'd hide/remove Keychain Access.
Yeah, I can't see Apple removing Keychain completely. As you state, it does manage more than the Passwords app like certificates, auth tokens and secure notes.

Since Beta 7 moved Keychain to the /System/.../Applications folder, it doesn't show in Launchpad anymore and you can't move it into your user applications folder without disabling SIP.

You can see if you can create a shortcut to open the app and save the shortcut as an App so it shows in Launchpad. You can also create an alias and save it in your ~/Applications folder but it won't show in Launchpad. I now just use Spotlight to open Keychain when I need it.
 
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I don't see keychain in launchpad on the latest 15.1 beta, even in Other folder.
 
Keychain Access app still exists in Seqouia it just isn't in Launchpad. So seeing both apps in the Launchpad won't absolutely confuse you..
 
Yeah, I can't see Apple removing Keychain completely. As you state, it does manage more than the Passwords app like certificates, auth tokens and secure notes.

Since Beta 7 moved Keychain to the /System/.../Applications folder, it doesn't show in Launchpad anymore and you can't move it into your user applications folder without disabling SIP.

You can see if you can create a shortcut to open the app and save the shortcut as an App so it shows in Launchpad. You can also create an alias and save it in your ~/Applications folder but it won't show in Launchpad. I now just use Spotlight to open Keychain when I need it.
Umm, you can ABSOLUTELY move the Keychain Access app from into the Applications folder... I was testing your claim just now, that it requires disabling SIP to do it and not only does it NOT require disabling anything whatsover, it does not even require your admin password..

Like, it just moves Lol
Not sure why your system does not trust you.. but you should probably ask what you did to lose their trust.
(Joke)
 
Umm, you can ABSOLUTELY move the Keychain Access app from into the Applications folder... I was testing your claim just now, that it requires disabling SIP to do it and not only does it NOT require disabling anything whatsover, it does not even require your admin password..
I think not. In fact, I am ABSOLUTELY sure not!
Like, it just moves Lol
Not sure why your system does not trust you.. but you should probably ask what you did to lose their trust.
(Joke)
When you "moved" it, an alias was created at the new location.
 
I think not. In fact, I am ABSOLUTELY sure not!

When you "moved" it, an alias was created at the new location.
Nope. Not an alias. If it were, I wouldn't have posted anything. You think I'm out here trying to move system stuff and don't know what an alias is?
 
Nope. Not an alias. If it were, I wouldn't have posted anything. You think I'm out here trying to move system stuff and don't know what an alias is?
Sorry, I should not have been so dogmatic. It doesn't automatically create an alias.

But are you sure you moved it? I can only copy it to /Applications. Tried both drag 'n' drop and mv command - both make a copy. I would be interested to know how you moved it.

I have some doubts about the wisdom of copying (or moving) it to /Applications. What happens with the next system update? Maybe end up with two different versions. Based on Sonoma and earlier, I believe that aliases in /Applications survive system updates and then connect to the new version.

On my main Mac (running Sonoma) I have aliases to most system apps, because I can then add tags which are used in saved searches to access "categories" of applications.
 
Is anyone having difficulty removing entries from Keychain Access? I accidentally stored an invalid password for an external drive a while back and I can't remove it. Nothing happens when I attempt to delete it.
 
As fiveon posted above:

Go to /System/Library/CoreServices/Applications

Click on the Keychain Access app ONE time to select it.

Hit command-C (copy).

Now open your Applications folder.

Type command-V (paste)

A copy of Keychain Access should now be placed there.
It's quite small.
Easy to find if and when you need it.
 
Is anyone having difficulty removing entries from Keychain Access? I accidentally stored an invalid password for an external drive a while back and I can't remove it. Nothing happens when I attempt to delete it.
Seems to be working okay for me. Do you not get the "Are you sure you want to delete" prompt either?

As fiveon posted above:

Go to /System/Library/CoreServices/Applications

Click on the Keychain Access app ONE time to select it.

Hit command-C (copy).

Now open your Applications folder.

Type command-V (paste)

A copy of Keychain Access should now be placed there.
It's quite small.
Easy to find if and when you need it.
This doesn't work. Have you tried opening the app after you copied/pasted it? You'll get an error. You would need to create an alias instead. I've always used Spotlight search to quickly open Keychain Access since it still shows up there.
 
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Blur wrote above:
"This doesn't work"

Here's a screenshot from my Utilities folder (2024 m4 Mini, Sequoia, 15.3.2) taken immediately before I posted this reply:
keychain access.png

You can see that Keychain Access (the app) is "there", and it's not an alias, either, but the full app (which is only about 5k).

Hmmm.... if the actual app (not an alias) won't "paste into" the Applications folder, try just pasting it onto the desktop, and THEN "drag it into" the Applications folder...
 
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Seems to be working okay for me. Do you not get the "Are you sure you want to delete" prompt either?
Nope. It just does nothing. It just completely ignores anything I do when I attempt to delete it.

I occasionally have odd behavior with my Finder that's makes my entire desktop mostly unselectable so it's possible that's the culprit. I'll try it again soon.
 
Blur wrote above:
"This doesn't work"

Here's a screenshot from my Utilities folder (2024 m4 Mini, Sequoia, 15.3.2) taken immediately before I posted this reply:
View attachment 2493449
You can see that Keychain Access (the app) is "there", and it's not an alias, either, but the full app (which is only about 5k).

Hmmm.... if the actual app (not an alias) won't "paste into" the Applications folder, try just pasting it onto the desktop, and THEN "drag it into" the Applications folder...
Right, but did you try running the app from the Applications folder? I have no problem copying and pasting it there, but it won't run from Applications. It throws a bunch of errors.

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Even if it's somehow working for you, an alias would still be better so that you're always running the actual version of the app that's found in /System/Library/CoreServices/Applications. By copying and pasting, you'll end up with an older version of the app in your Applications folder if/when it gets updated in future macOS updates (unless you plan copy it over after every update).
 
"Right, but did you try running the app from the Applications folder?"

I just read your reply a moment ago.
I opened my utilities folder and selected "Keychain Access".
A dialog pops up asking for my password as authorization to run it.
I entered my password.

It opens and runs.

While I was "in there", I tried deleting an entry for an app I no longer use.
The deletion worked, the entry was removed.

I sense that you have something else going on somewhere...
 
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