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Leopard specs released by OWC!

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http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Apple/105LEOP/

Either Leopard has better specs in real life than the Developer Preview, or they are digging a hole for themselves. They say:

"Apple Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard" - Complete, New, Full Retail Box Version! *PREORDER* - Expected to ship Late October, 2007. Requires 800MHz G4 or faster, DVD drive, built in FireWire, and at least 512MB of RAM. (APL105LEOP)"

As has been mentioned earlier the Developer Preview won't install on anything less than 867 Mhz. So perhaps Apple has announced to them some last second optimizations. If not, they are digging a hole for themselves by understating the specs.
 
gopher said:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Apple/105LEOP/

Either Leopard has better specs in real life than the Developer Preview, or they are digging a hole for themselves. They say:

"Apple Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard" - Complete, New, Full Retail Box Version! *PREORDER* - Expected to ship Late October, 2007. Requires 800MHz G4 or faster, DVD drive, built in FireWire, and at least 512MB of RAM. (APL105LEOP)"

As has been mentioned earlier the Developer Preview won't install on anything less than 867 Mhz. So perhaps Apple has announced to them some last second optimizations. If not, they are digging a hole for themselves by understating the specs.
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or maybe OWC has there info wrong or possibly a typo
 
Roy Hobbs said:
or maybe OWC has there info wrong or possibly a typo
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They also included a 25 day ship date. :eek:

Which would put the shipping date announcement by Apple near the end of the month most likely.

No need to open anymore threads. ;)

NOTE: which is the typo... expected shipping or late October.
 
The difference between 867Mhz and 800Mhz isn't really that much at all. I think the biggest thing to be worried about is the RAM.
 
There are at least 5 Mac models that will be cut off because of the 867 Mhz minimum. Only 2 Mac models of necessary speed didn't come with easily upgradeable RAM but less than 512 MB, namely two versions of the Mac Mini.
 
Leopard 10.5 runs just great on my MBP with the 2.16GHz, 667 and 2gigs ram.

I am running the Developer Seed 9A559 and it flies :D

This seed is the latest from Apple and widely believed to be the same as the final version. At least that is what I read on Macrumors.
 
digitaltoaster said:
Leopard 10.5 runs just great on my MBP with the 2.16GHz, 667 and 2gigs ram.

I am running the Developer Seed 9A559 and it flies :D

This seed is the latest from Apple and widely believed to be the same as the final version. At least that is what I read on Macrumors.
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As it comes with published bugs, one would hope not.

Guessing at build 9A600 for a round release number, unless it has already surpassed that internally.
 
Now Apple does not have to be evil and accept processor upgrades, not just check the computer model against the requirements.
 
Updated Leopard requirements to exclude 800MHz systems

gopher said:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Apple/105LEOP/

Either Leopard has better specs in real life than the Developer Preview, or they are digging a hole for themselves. They say:

"Apple Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard" - Complete, New, Full Retail Box Version! *PREORDER* - Expected to ship Late October, 2007. Requires 800MHz G4 or faster, DVD drive, built in FireWire, and at least 512MB of RAM. (APL105LEOP)"

As has been mentioned earlier the Developer Preview won't install on anything less than 867 Mhz. So perhaps Apple has announced to them some last second optimizations. If not, they are digging a hole for themselves by understating the specs.
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AppleInsider: Updated Leopard requirements to exclude 800MHz systems
that September 24 said:
According to people familiar with the matter, engineers for the company recently determined that Leopard installs on 800MHz PowerPC G4 systems ran "too slow." Support for those systems was subsequently pulled from the most recent pre-release copies of Leopard, which inform testers that the software "cannot be installed" on those computers.

Instead, Leopard will now require Macs with "an Intel processor or a PowerPC G4 (867 MHz or faster) or G5 processor." Other system requirements include a DVD drive, built-in FireWire, at least 512MB of RAM (additional recommended), and at least 9GB of hard disk space.

Though seemingly mild, the 67MHz increase will exclude a handful of Mac system, namely the 800MHz PowerBook G4 (Titanium), 800MHz PowerMac G4 (Quicksilver), 800MHz iMac G4, 800MHz iBook G4, and 800MHz eMac.
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Is the difference between 800 MHz and 867 MHz a difference in chip type? I don't remember all the variations, but is it possible that the 800 MHz chips are an earlier variant of the G4?

Or is the 867 MHz cutoff just an arbitrary cutoff Apple set?
 
Naimfan said:
Is the difference between 800 MHz and 867 MHz a difference in chip type? I don't remember all the variations, but is it possible that the 800 MHz chips are an earlier variant of the G4?

Or is the 867 MHz cutoff just an arbitrary cutoff Apple set?
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Read the post right above yours, the 800 MHZ machines ran too slow with Leopard, thus no support for them.
 
OWC President Says Apple Just Put The Minimum BACK DOWN To 800 MHz As Of Today On ADC

Naimfan said:
Is the difference between 800 MHz and 867 MHz a difference in chip type? I don't remember all the variations, but is it possible that the 800 MHz chips are an earlier variant of the G4?

Or is the 867 MHz cutoff just an arbitrary cutoff Apple set?
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It's an engineering decision due to poorer performance than they want it to be. I'm on the phone with OWC right now and they say they just got word from Apple it's been lowered BACK DOWN to 800 MHz.
 
Roy Hobbs said:
Read the post right above yours, the 800 MHZ machines ran too slow with Leopard, thus no support for them.
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I did.

I'm wondering if the reason is a (slightly) different architecture of the 800 MHz and slower G4 chips. Because I find it hard to believe that, absent some such difference, the 67 MHz difference would make enough of a difference speedwise.
 
Multimedia said:
It's an engineering decision due to poorer performance than they want it to be. I'm on the phone with OWC right now and they say they just got word from Apple it's been lowered BACK DOWN to 800 MHz.
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Interesting! Thanks! :)
 
Heavy Doody said:
Why in the world would Firewire be a system requirement for an OS?
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This has been discussed before. FireWire in and of itself is not a separate requirement. It is merely a shorthand way of telling you which models will not run the new OS. Every G4-based Mac has FireWire. There is no Mac whose processor is newer than the 867 MHz G4 which does not have FireWire.

Would you bitch and moan if Apple stated that Leopard can only be installed on Macs which are powered by electricity? Don't answer that!
 
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