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Why I'm returning my iPhone 6 (well, maybe)
Kirk McElhearn
@mcelhearn Sep 23, 2014 1:10 PM
Like many (many, many (http://www.macworld.com/article/2643110/apple- iphone-6-and-6-plus-pre-orders-top-4-million-in-24-hours.html)) people, I preordered a new iPhone 6 as soon as I possibly could. I didnt choose the iPhone 6 Plus, the clown-shoe version of this device, but went for the standard- sized model. Ive often desired to have a slightly larger screen, so I welcomed the idea of a 4.7-inch iPhone. I thought it would allow me to see more content,
and use larger fonts, which would help my aging eyes. After using it for a few days, however, Im not sure that I really want to keep it. I may return my iPhone 6 and continue using the iPhone 5s.
The iPhone 6 is a beautiful device. The display has rich, sharp colors, excellent contrast, and the large fonts make everything more readable. The design is sleek and smooth. But the problem is how the iPhone 6 fits in my hand.
Im used to doing most things with my iPhone one-handed. With an iPhone 5s, I can comfortably, and securely, hold the phone in my hand and reach almost any part of its display to tap it. The iPhone 6 is very different. If I hold it securely, I can reach part of its display, and tap some buttons and icons, but for much of what I do I need two hands.
(The iPhone 6 Plus is obviously a different animal. If you buy that, you know that you must use it with two hands. I dont think any human beings have hands large enough to do much with that device one- handed.)
This is quite unexpected, as I have very large hands. With the iPhone 6, I dont feel that I can comfortably hold the phone and use it in one hand without running the risk of dropping it. I always put cases on my iPhones, because they are expensiveI buy unlocked phonesbut I dont really like to test how well these cases work, if you get my drift. I bought a case for my iPhone 6
Reachability feels like Apple admitting the iPhone 6 is too big to use one-handed. It's a good idea, but in practice it takes too much tapping.
(http://www.macworld.com/article/2605998/the-week-in-iphone-cases-out-the- gate.html), and, while it is very thin, it still adds an additional half-inch to the width of the phone, making it even harder to hold.
Apple foresaw this problem, and introduced a feature called Reachability (http://www.macworld.com/article/2684242/iphone-6-and-iphone-6-plus-review- bigger-is-in-fact-better-in-the-right-hands.html). To activate this, you double-tap on the Home button without actually pressing it, and the screen slides down a bit. This is a nice idea, but its poorly designed. First, tapping the home button means that you need to twist your hand a bit; its not comfortable, and the way most people hold smartphones, the thumb cant access this button easily. Then, as soon as you tap something on the screen, it slides back up again. If youre trying to navigate, say, the Settings app, you may need to tap several times to reach your goal. Using Reachability, you may need to tap, double-tap, tap, double-tap, tap
Think of the number of apps that have back buttons at the top-left of their screens. This is a very common convention, which worked fine on older iPhones, but now its problematic. That back button is suddenly in the hardest-to-reach place, at least for a right-hander. With Reachability, you can access it, but I dont feel that Im holding the phone securely enough, and I have to tap these buttons so often that its simply annoying.
Music and Letterpress are just two of the dozens of apps that put the back button in the top-left corner which is now the hardest place for right-handers to hit when using the iPhone 6 one-handed.
One of the main features of the larger iPhone is supposed to be its increased usability because of the larger display. However, this handheld device is no longer designed for most hands. The fact that this is problematic for me and my large hands suggests that for others, notably women, it will be even more difficult to use. I asked my partner to fiddle with my iPhone 6 a bit. She found it was impossible for her to do much one-handed, other than press the home button.
Apple clearly reacted to the market in deciding to make larger iPhones. There are many people who are delighted to use a smartphone with two hands, but many others who, like me, want to be able to use it with one hand as well. Apple is still selling the iPhone 5s at a lower price since its last years model. But I wonder if the company will keep selling the older model in large numbers to people who simply dont want a phone as big as the iPhone 6.
For me, Ive got a few more days to decide whether I keep this phone that I dont feel comfortable using, or whether I go back to the iPhone 5s, which I can hold securely. What would you do?
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David Dunn
15 minutes ago
Oh really? So the iPhone 6 + is "the clown-shoe version of this device"? What an idiotic assumption! That implies that as the iPhone 4 was once "standard" in size, the iPhone 6 is "the clown-shoe version of that device". Ridiculous.
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Bob Smogango
20 minutes ago
I actually think 4.5 inch would be the best size for one handed operation and still have a decent amount of viewing room for those with less than perfect eyesight if it's thin
enough and I would prefer if it had a curve to the back which fits more with the curve of your hand. I'm getting the iPhone 6 simply because it's bigger than the 5S which is still not big enough for me, but I could definitely live with a 4.5 inch model as long as it's thin, has a curve to it and doesn't bend easily. I think some people just want a big smartphone instead of using a tablet and a smartphone. I can see the iPhone 6+ actually cannibalizing the iPad mini to some extent.
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ericole
7 hours ago
I commented earlier, but just got this report from Consumer Reports in my inbox. This is the king of real-world testing they are good at. Nothing subjective about it. What I find fascinating about the whole thing is that the iPhone 5 is VASTLY better than the iPhone 6 models in this bending issue: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/09/consumer-reports-tests-iphone-6- bendgate/index.htm
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Cory Badre
1 day ago
Steve Jobs is probably rolling in his grave with this new iPhone iPhone is supposed to fit in your hand they are going to ruin the company in Burnet to the ground I hate the iPhone 6 love iPhone five and 5S
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cole123
1 day ago
It's subjective, but I hate my iPhone 6 and will be selling it soon on eBay (no box anymore.) The 5s will become the vintage Jaguar of cell phones. RIP Steve Jobs.
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Rick Reumann
2 days ago
What is the big deal about having to use every application on your phone with one hand? Sure for calls, and maybe texts, yea you need quick one hand access, but on all but maybe the largest devices, calls and texting aren't an issue. For the other applications on your phone - browser, games, etc - don't you typically have the time to use two hands? The benefits of a larger screen for the majority of applications seems to dwarf this "must be able to use every app on my phone with one hand" mantra.
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bgl321
2 days ago
I have all the feelings you are. I really miss the "true" one-handed use of the 5S. Like you I am taking the next couple days to decide. Right now I'm leaning towards returning and buying a 5S.
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Bob Smogango
19 minutes ago
I think 4.5 inch would have been the perfect one handed size for most people. 4.7inch is about the biggest I would want.
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Dzsoko
2 days ago
I've seen iphone 6 (12cm or 4.7in) from my coworkers and I'm very happy I stuck with iphone 5s which i bought 3 months ago. 5s has a straight edge design which is much better for holding, the metal seems real unlike 6 which seems too slippery (I never use phone cases as they make phone ugly bulky and heavy) with roung edges and it just reminded me so much of Samsung phones even of 2 or 3 years ago. Dont know but I will stick with smaller phones (no matter who makes them) and preferebly with straight edges as with iphone 5s which is ideal for holding and gripping.
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Erick
3 days ago
I also plan on returning my iPhone 6 (not Plus) this weekend. One-handed usability is key in my opinion. I did a side by side usability test last night and the iPhone 5 was much better.
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Sunita Mtnfund
3 days ago
which one your contract my one at&t ....month ago i brought samsung but i don't know how to used because aim used to iPhone if you want exchange with me
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wolfybiker
3 days ago
I too have found the iPhone 6 too large for the kind of everyday use I've come to rely on from my previous iPhones. It's a beautiful device, and I excitedly collected mine last weekend. I even went for the 128GB model, delighted at the fact that I could now store all my music library on the device.
Alas, I'm returning it today, and reverting back to old faithful - iPhone 5, simply because the 6 is too large for me to comfortably use. I only have myself to blame - I didn't try it for size first, I just got carried away with the hype!
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wheresjames
3 days ago
The Wife and I both returned the iPhone 6 last night for the 5S. We both struggled with comfortably using the phone, fitting the phone in athletic pockets, and finally falling in love with the design. The five series bodies perfectly suit our lifestyle.
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ericole
3 days ago
I don't have an iphone, but an iPod Touch and always use it with both hands. So that probably wouldn't be weird for me. I noticed that if I just use one hand that thumb actually starts getting cramped. Already type and work on computer all day - don't
need to be contorting my fingers to do other things in directions they weren't designed to do them in - so I work on that.
BUT - there is no way I could hold it and operate it with one hand without being paranoid. Stupid thinness - form over function. Apple seems to be stuck in a thinness mood, and thin isn't necessarily better. This "form over function" was evident to the masses with the last iMac iteration. The thinness of the edge is absolutely pointless on a desktop computer that, compared to previous CRT monitors, is tiny. Once iMacs went to flat panel displays, they were as thin as they needed to be. Now it is in the phone. The first time the camera sticks out! Unbelievable. I'll say it - Steve Jobs would never have agreed to that.
At least he shouldn't have. Does a user REALLY notice (positively) the difference in shaving off millimeters or fractions of the weight?
I went to the local Apple store today to see the phones in person. The screens are gorgeous, and a nice size. No complaint there. BUT, I compared the feel of a 5s and 6 and 6+ and the 5 infinitely more holdable and strong. I literally had trouble holding the 6/6+ with my dry hands. The metal is so slippery. It REQUIRES a case, and that case will fix the sticking-out camera problem. But the flat edge, and heft of the 5s, compared to either of the 6 models made a huge difference in my confidence in holding and using the phone - as a phone.
I'm an old Newton MP 2000 user (still have it). My guess is that the screen size of the 6+ is close to that. People always complained they were too big, and the Palm Pilot addressed that. Today's phones are reversing the small trend. Of course they do
more than standard cell phones and we need the screen real estate - but not at the risk of making it thinner to shave off ounces. Bring back some thickness and give it over
for massive battery life. THAT's function OVER form. But of course the form could still be amazing.
Apple, totally not impressed with the design - capability, yes, but not design. It is unfortunately that only your newest external hardware designs contain the newest internal HW capability. For people who prefer the 5s size and shape, it would be awesome if you'd update those internals with any missing capabilities the 6 line brings to the table.
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kirkmc
3 days ago
Good point about the 6 needing a case. Those rounded edges make it harder to hold securely. (Though I always put a case on my phones, including my 5s.)
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rcmike
4 days ago
I'm pretty much at the same decision point. I ordered the iP6 for the camera and more storage (128GB) since I take a lot of photos and video. The display is beautiful but I think I just prefer a smaller footprint. Maybe I'm just holding it wrong. Ideally, I'd like a 5S with an OIS lens and faster focus.
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Erick
3 days ago
I'm in the same boat as you, We can only hope that Apple makes like an iPhone 6 Minus.
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Ryan Lounsbury
4 days ago
I just recently came back to the iPhone after having two Windows Phone's and a couple various Android devices. I personally am not the biggest fan of large phones (north of 5" screens) but I wasn't sure how well i'd adapt to a much smaller screen. I got an iPhone 4S from a co-worker and after just a few days I listed my OnePlus One on eBay and made the 4S my daily driver (it works rather well with 7.1.2 but 8.0 is a no go). I was surprised at how well the 3.5" screen works for me and it is nice that the whole phone actually fits in my hand to which I don't have the largest hands on the planet. I'll probably upgrade to a new iPhone next year and may just go for a 5S instead of a 6.
I'm curious to see if Apple elects to release a 5S+ or a iPhone 6 Mini (as it where) that
continues with a 4" screen but has all the latest and greatest hardware from Apple that they can stuff into the smaller frame. If enough demand remains for the smaller screen size I wouldn't be surprised to see a retooled iPhone 5S with the next round of hardware.
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redcoloredglass
4 days ago
I will confess that I am not a fan of apple products. I feel they are too overpriced and do not offer enough for me to pay the extra cost. Having said that I love competition in the market as it makes all parties compete which in turn means better stuff for the consumer. I think the new iPhone looks good. But a friend of mine let me borrow one to play with for a second, and the first thing I thought to myself is that it is too thin. My hands are on the large side and I have, with all of my smartphones, had to buy a case (not just because I wanted to protect it) especially since these phones have gotten thinner. I need the extra size so I don't feel like I am going to drop it. The new iphone feels almost as thin as an ipod touch...Which IMHO is waaay too thin for a device.
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redcoloredglass
4 days ago
ohh...and my moto x, which has the same size screen as the 6, is smaller, as it has not hardware buttons on its face that require a larger area. Edge to edge display, left and right and a minimalist bezel top and bottom. Thus so my 4.7 inch phone can still be used one handed. (again, I do have larger hands, so....)
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kirkmc
4 days ago
I think the iPod touch has good proportions: the thickness compared to the overall size. The 6 is thicker than the touch. To be fair, it's not the thinness of the 6 that bothers me. It seems plenty solid.
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Wildman180
4 days ago
Maybe these large phones will eliminate some of the texting and driving. No, loss there.
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Sean Reynolds
I text with two hands when I drive.
3 days ago
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PureRandom
4 days ago
I had to laugh when I read this article. Having just dropped £620 on a new phone, I'm
quite disappointed with my purchase - a first for an Apple product. Thinking I just needed to 'adapt', I've been persevering for a few days ...but persevering is the key word and it shouldn't feel like that. I feel like if I try to type one handed, there is too much opportunity for the phone to slide out of my hand and, while I was ever conscious of the iphone 5 edges, I now miss the secure lock in my hand. I really wish they'd kept the 4" screen and allows the plus to be the bigger screen type and so will
be going back to the iphone 5, maybe the 5s as Im quite enjoying Touch ID. This trend of increasing the size of a screen for a phone is getting a bit out of hand ...pun completely intended.
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Sean Reynolds
3 days ago
I wish they would have upgraded the hardware of the 5s and released it too, like they did with the 5c, which has a slightly better battery than the 5.
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sunman42
4 days ago
I have to give Mr. McElhearn credit. I've never been able to operate any phone since my last Moto flip phone one-handed. Maybe my thumbs are just the wrong size, or something (though I needed two thumbs for texting). The iPhone 6 is a little slipperier than its predecessor (for me, that means an iPhone 4 in a silicone bumper), but all the either differences are positive. And I hope to correct that one shortcoming when Apple ships the case I ordered on the 19th.
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JMHammer
4 days ago
I understand the appeal of a larger screen. Especially if you watch videos or play games. Maybe even if you're reading. I read on my iPhone (currently still have my iPhone 5) and while I watch a video now and then I prefer my iPad Mini or Mac or my TV hooked up to my Apple TV. But I'd rather have a smaller iPhone to use as, you know, a phone. And a PDA. I don't want to keep my phone in a shoulder bag and access it with a wristwatch; I don't like wearing things on my wrist.
I want my phone to be small enough to fit comfortably in any pocket I'm not going to sit on. Something the size of the iPhone 4/4S is about as large as I want to deal with. Even my iPhone 5 is a smidge larger than I like. It's a PHONE first, PDA second, and everything else is tertiary for me. It's nice to be able to watch a video on it when I'm on the move somewhere but unless the device is too big to be a PHONE, as I think the iPhone 6+ is, it's not going to be my first choice to do it.
Apple, please, next year give us the iPhone Mini.
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ben bdippin
4 days ago
This is a little bit of a long passage for you to simply explain that the phone is too big. Needing to use two hand is not that big of a deal. I dont have the iphone6 but i do have a large phone and its not so bad since most of the phones features can be accessed through speach
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RobertPerez1
4 days ago
I had lunch at Wendy's yesterday and had the same thought of trading my iPhone 6 for a 5s. I tried to use Flipboard while eating and getting back to the article summaries one- handed was a PITA, even with Reachability. Eating with my old iPhone 5 was way easier.
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Anonymous
use two hands. problem solved.
4 days ago
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macreader
4 days ago
Love my 6. Maybe Apple Watch will help. On the other hand, maybe one-handed users should be ostracized and shamed ;-0
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drazgoth
4 days ago
I'm happy with the larger screen, reading things off the 5s was getting to be a strain on my eyes (even with glasses) so a larger screen is certainly welcome. I have larger than average hands but even then I do use the reachability function rather frequently since I don't want to change the position of my hand, and find it easier to just do the double tap instead. It was wise to keep the 5S around still, I will admit thought they might want to consider keeping something in the 5S/5C/5 size though. The iPhone in a smaller size really is a nifty device, with it bigger is a bit of a change, but for me certainly welcome.
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melvinwalker
But is a larger screen going to mean larger text? I'm skeptical.
4 days ago
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Why I'm returning my iPhone 6 (well, maybe)
Kirk McElhearn
@mcelhearn Sep 23, 2014 1:10 PM
Like many (many, many (http://www.macworld.com/article/2643110/apple- iphone-6-and-6-plus-pre-orders-top-4-million-in-24-hours.html)) people, I preordered a new iPhone 6 as soon as I possibly could. I didnt choose the iPhone 6 Plus, the clown-shoe version of this device, but went for the standard- sized model. Ive often desired to have a slightly larger screen, so I welcomed the idea of a 4.7-inch iPhone. I thought it would allow me to see more content,
and use larger fonts, which would help my aging eyes. After using it for a few days, however, Im not sure that I really want to keep it. I may return my iPhone 6 and continue using the iPhone 5s.
The iPhone 6 is a beautiful device. The display has rich, sharp colors, excellent contrast, and the large fonts make everything more readable. The design is sleek and smooth. But the problem is how the iPhone 6 fits in my hand.
Im used to doing most things with my iPhone one-handed. With an iPhone 5s, I can comfortably, and securely, hold the phone in my hand and reach almost any part of its display to tap it. The iPhone 6 is very different. If I hold it securely, I can reach part of its display, and tap some buttons and icons, but for much of what I do I need two hands.
(The iPhone 6 Plus is obviously a different animal. If you buy that, you know that you must use it with two hands. I dont think any human beings have hands large enough to do much with that device one- handed.)
This is quite unexpected, as I have very large hands. With the iPhone 6, I dont feel that I can comfortably hold the phone and use it in one hand without running the risk of dropping it. I always put cases on my iPhones, because they are expensiveI buy unlocked phonesbut I dont really like to test how well these cases work, if you get my drift. I bought a case for my iPhone 6
Reachability feels like Apple admitting the iPhone 6 is too big to use one-handed. It's a good idea, but in practice it takes too much tapping.
(http://www.macworld.com/article/2605998/the-week-in-iphone-cases-out-the- gate.html), and, while it is very thin, it still adds an additional half-inch to the width of the phone, making it even harder to hold.
Apple foresaw this problem, and introduced a feature called Reachability (http://www.macworld.com/article/2684242/iphone-6-and-iphone-6-plus-review- bigger-is-in-fact-better-in-the-right-hands.html). To activate this, you double-tap on the Home button without actually pressing it, and the screen slides down a bit. This is a nice idea, but its poorly designed. First, tapping the home button means that you need to twist your hand a bit; its not comfortable, and the way most people hold smartphones, the thumb cant access this button easily. Then, as soon as you tap something on the screen, it slides back up again. If youre trying to navigate, say, the Settings app, you may need to tap several times to reach your goal. Using Reachability, you may need to tap, double-tap, tap, double-tap, tap
Think of the number of apps that have back buttons at the top-left of their screens. This is a very common convention, which worked fine on older iPhones, but now its problematic. That back button is suddenly in the hardest-to-reach place, at least for a right-hander. With Reachability, you can access it, but I dont feel that Im holding the phone securely enough, and I have to tap these buttons so often that its simply annoying.
Music and Letterpress are just two of the dozens of apps that put the back button in the top-left corner which is now the hardest place for right-handers to hit when using the iPhone 6 one-handed.
One of the main features of the larger iPhone is supposed to be its increased usability because of the larger display. However, this handheld device is no longer designed for most hands. The fact that this is problematic for me and my large hands suggests that for others, notably women, it will be even more difficult to use. I asked my partner to fiddle with my iPhone 6 a bit. She found it was impossible for her to do much one-handed, other than press the home button.
Apple clearly reacted to the market in deciding to make larger iPhones. There are many people who are delighted to use a smartphone with two hands, but many others who, like me, want to be able to use it with one hand as well. Apple is still selling the iPhone 5s at a lower price since its last years model. But I wonder if the company will keep selling the older model in large numbers to people who simply dont want a phone as big as the iPhone 6.
For me, Ive got a few more days to decide whether I keep this phone that I dont feel comfortable using, or whether I go back to the iPhone 5s, which I can hold securely. What would you do?
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David Dunn
15 minutes ago
Oh really? So the iPhone 6 + is "the clown-shoe version of this device"? What an idiotic assumption! That implies that as the iPhone 4 was once "standard" in size, the iPhone 6 is "the clown-shoe version of that device". Ridiculous.
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Bob Smogango
20 minutes ago
I actually think 4.5 inch would be the best size for one handed operation and still have a decent amount of viewing room for those with less than perfect eyesight if it's thin
enough and I would prefer if it had a curve to the back which fits more with the curve of your hand. I'm getting the iPhone 6 simply because it's bigger than the 5S which is still not big enough for me, but I could definitely live with a 4.5 inch model as long as it's thin, has a curve to it and doesn't bend easily. I think some people just want a big smartphone instead of using a tablet and a smartphone. I can see the iPhone 6+ actually cannibalizing the iPad mini to some extent.
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ericole
7 hours ago
I commented earlier, but just got this report from Consumer Reports in my inbox. This is the king of real-world testing they are good at. Nothing subjective about it. What I find fascinating about the whole thing is that the iPhone 5 is VASTLY better than the iPhone 6 models in this bending issue: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/09/consumer-reports-tests-iphone-6- bendgate/index.htm
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Cory Badre
1 day ago
Steve Jobs is probably rolling in his grave with this new iPhone iPhone is supposed to fit in your hand they are going to ruin the company in Burnet to the ground I hate the iPhone 6 love iPhone five and 5S
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cole123
1 day ago
It's subjective, but I hate my iPhone 6 and will be selling it soon on eBay (no box anymore.) The 5s will become the vintage Jaguar of cell phones. RIP Steve Jobs.
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Rick Reumann
2 days ago
What is the big deal about having to use every application on your phone with one hand? Sure for calls, and maybe texts, yea you need quick one hand access, but on all but maybe the largest devices, calls and texting aren't an issue. For the other applications on your phone - browser, games, etc - don't you typically have the time to use two hands? The benefits of a larger screen for the majority of applications seems to dwarf this "must be able to use every app on my phone with one hand" mantra.
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bgl321
2 days ago
I have all the feelings you are. I really miss the "true" one-handed use of the 5S. Like you I am taking the next couple days to decide. Right now I'm leaning towards returning and buying a 5S.
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Bob Smogango
19 minutes ago
I think 4.5 inch would have been the perfect one handed size for most people. 4.7inch is about the biggest I would want.
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Dzsoko
2 days ago
I've seen iphone 6 (12cm or 4.7in) from my coworkers and I'm very happy I stuck with iphone 5s which i bought 3 months ago. 5s has a straight edge design which is much better for holding, the metal seems real unlike 6 which seems too slippery (I never use phone cases as they make phone ugly bulky and heavy) with roung edges and it just reminded me so much of Samsung phones even of 2 or 3 years ago. Dont know but I will stick with smaller phones (no matter who makes them) and preferebly with straight edges as with iphone 5s which is ideal for holding and gripping.
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Erick
3 days ago
I also plan on returning my iPhone 6 (not Plus) this weekend. One-handed usability is key in my opinion. I did a side by side usability test last night and the iPhone 5 was much better.
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Sunita Mtnfund
3 days ago
which one your contract my one at&t ....month ago i brought samsung but i don't know how to used because aim used to iPhone if you want exchange with me
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wolfybiker
3 days ago
I too have found the iPhone 6 too large for the kind of everyday use I've come to rely on from my previous iPhones. It's a beautiful device, and I excitedly collected mine last weekend. I even went for the 128GB model, delighted at the fact that I could now store all my music library on the device.
Alas, I'm returning it today, and reverting back to old faithful - iPhone 5, simply because the 6 is too large for me to comfortably use. I only have myself to blame - I didn't try it for size first, I just got carried away with the hype!
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wheresjames
3 days ago
The Wife and I both returned the iPhone 6 last night for the 5S. We both struggled with comfortably using the phone, fitting the phone in athletic pockets, and finally falling in love with the design. The five series bodies perfectly suit our lifestyle.
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ericole
3 days ago
I don't have an iphone, but an iPod Touch and always use it with both hands. So that probably wouldn't be weird for me. I noticed that if I just use one hand that thumb actually starts getting cramped. Already type and work on computer all day - don't
need to be contorting my fingers to do other things in directions they weren't designed to do them in - so I work on that.
BUT - there is no way I could hold it and operate it with one hand without being paranoid. Stupid thinness - form over function. Apple seems to be stuck in a thinness mood, and thin isn't necessarily better. This "form over function" was evident to the masses with the last iMac iteration. The thinness of the edge is absolutely pointless on a desktop computer that, compared to previous CRT monitors, is tiny. Once iMacs went to flat panel displays, they were as thin as they needed to be. Now it is in the phone. The first time the camera sticks out! Unbelievable. I'll say it - Steve Jobs would never have agreed to that.
At least he shouldn't have. Does a user REALLY notice (positively) the difference in shaving off millimeters or fractions of the weight?I went to the local Apple store today to see the phones in person. The screens are gorgeous, and a nice size. No complaint there. BUT, I compared the feel of a 5s and 6 and 6+ and the 5 infinitely more holdable and strong. I literally had trouble holding the 6/6+ with my dry hands. The metal is so slippery. It REQUIRES a case, and that case will fix the sticking-out camera problem. But the flat edge, and heft of the 5s, compared to either of the 6 models made a huge difference in my confidence in holding and using the phone - as a phone.
I'm an old Newton MP 2000 user (still have it). My guess is that the screen size of the 6+ is close to that. People always complained they were too big, and the Palm Pilot addressed that. Today's phones are reversing the small trend. Of course they do
more than standard cell phones and we need the screen real estate - but not at the risk of making it thinner to shave off ounces. Bring back some thickness and give it over
for massive battery life. THAT's function OVER form. But of course the form could still be amazing.
Apple, totally not impressed with the design - capability, yes, but not design. It is unfortunately that only your newest external hardware designs contain the newest internal HW capability. For people who prefer the 5s size and shape, it would be awesome if you'd update those internals with any missing capabilities the 6 line brings to the table.
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kirkmc
3 days ago
Good point about the 6 needing a case. Those rounded edges make it harder to hold securely. (Though I always put a case on my phones, including my 5s.)
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rcmike
4 days ago
I'm pretty much at the same decision point. I ordered the iP6 for the camera and more storage (128GB) since I take a lot of photos and video. The display is beautiful but I think I just prefer a smaller footprint. Maybe I'm just holding it wrong.
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Erick
3 days ago
I'm in the same boat as you, We can only hope that Apple makes like an iPhone 6 Minus.
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Ryan Lounsbury
4 days ago
I just recently came back to the iPhone after having two Windows Phone's and a couple various Android devices. I personally am not the biggest fan of large phones (north of 5" screens) but I wasn't sure how well i'd adapt to a much smaller screen. I got an iPhone 4S from a co-worker and after just a few days I listed my OnePlus One on eBay and made the 4S my daily driver (it works rather well with 7.1.2 but 8.0 is a no go). I was surprised at how well the 3.5" screen works for me and it is nice that the whole phone actually fits in my hand to which I don't have the largest hands on the planet. I'll probably upgrade to a new iPhone next year and may just go for a 5S instead of a 6.
I'm curious to see if Apple elects to release a 5S+ or a iPhone 6 Mini (as it where) that
continues with a 4" screen but has all the latest and greatest hardware from Apple that they can stuff into the smaller frame. If enough demand remains for the smaller screen size I wouldn't be surprised to see a retooled iPhone 5S with the next round of hardware.
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redcoloredglass
4 days ago
I will confess that I am not a fan of apple products. I feel they are too overpriced and do not offer enough for me to pay the extra cost. Having said that I love competition in the market as it makes all parties compete which in turn means better stuff for the consumer. I think the new iPhone looks good. But a friend of mine let me borrow one to play with for a second, and the first thing I thought to myself is that it is too thin. My hands are on the large side and I have, with all of my smartphones, had to buy a case (not just because I wanted to protect it) especially since these phones have gotten thinner. I need the extra size so I don't feel like I am going to drop it. The new iphone feels almost as thin as an ipod touch...Which IMHO is waaay too thin for a device.
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redcoloredglass
4 days ago
ohh...and my moto x, which has the same size screen as the 6, is smaller, as it has not hardware buttons on its face that require a larger area. Edge to edge display, left and right and a minimalist bezel top and bottom. Thus so my 4.7 inch phone can still be used one handed. (again, I do have larger hands, so....)
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kirkmc
4 days ago
I think the iPod touch has good proportions: the thickness compared to the overall size. The 6 is thicker than the touch. To be fair, it's not the thinness of the 6 that bothers me. It seems plenty solid.
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Wildman180
4 days ago
Maybe these large phones will eliminate some of the texting and driving. No, loss there.
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Sean Reynolds
I text with two hands when I drive.
3 days ago
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PureRandom
4 days ago
I had to laugh when I read this article. Having just dropped £620 on a new phone, I'm
quite disappointed with my purchase - a first for an Apple product. Thinking I just needed to 'adapt', I've been persevering for a few days ...but persevering is the key word and it shouldn't feel like that. I feel like if I try to type one handed, there is too much opportunity for the phone to slide out of my hand and, while I was ever conscious of the iphone 5 edges, I now miss the secure lock in my hand. I really wish they'd kept the 4" screen and allows the plus to be the bigger screen type and so will
be going back to the iphone 5, maybe the 5s as Im quite enjoying Touch ID. This trend of increasing the size of a screen for a phone is getting a bit out of hand ...pun completely intended.
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Sean Reynolds
3 days ago
I wish they would have upgraded the hardware of the 5s and released it too, like they did with the 5c, which has a slightly better battery than the 5.
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sunman42
4 days ago
I have to give Mr. McElhearn credit. I've never been able to operate any phone since my last Moto flip phone one-handed. Maybe my thumbs are just the wrong size, or something (though I needed two thumbs for texting). The iPhone 6 is a little slipperier than its predecessor (for me, that means an iPhone 4 in a silicone bumper), but all the either differences are positive. And I hope to correct that one shortcoming when Apple ships the case I ordered on the 19th.
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JMHammer
4 days ago
I understand the appeal of a larger screen. Especially if you watch videos or play games. Maybe even if you're reading. I read on my iPhone (currently still have my iPhone 5) and while I watch a video now and then I prefer my iPad Mini or Mac or my TV hooked up to my Apple TV. But I'd rather have a smaller iPhone to use as, you know, a phone. And a PDA. I don't want to keep my phone in a shoulder bag and access it with a wristwatch; I don't like wearing things on my wrist.
I want my phone to be small enough to fit comfortably in any pocket I'm not going to sit on. Something the size of the iPhone 4/4S is about as large as I want to deal with. Even my iPhone 5 is a smidge larger than I like. It's a PHONE first, PDA second, and everything else is tertiary for me. It's nice to be able to watch a video on it when I'm on the move somewhere but unless the device is too big to be a PHONE, as I think the iPhone 6+ is, it's not going to be my first choice to do it.
Apple, please, next year give us the iPhone Mini.
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ben bdippin
4 days ago
This is a little bit of a long passage for you to simply explain that the phone is too big. Needing to use two hand is not that big of a deal. I dont have the iphone6 but i do have a large phone and its not so bad since most of the phones features can be accessed through speach
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RobertPerez1
4 days ago
I had lunch at Wendy's yesterday and had the same thought of trading my iPhone 6 for a 5s. I tried to use Flipboard while eating and getting back to the article summaries one- handed was a PITA, even with Reachability. Eating with my old iPhone 5 was way easier.
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Anonymous
use two hands. problem solved.
4 days ago
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macreader
4 days ago
Love my 6. Maybe Apple Watch will help. On the other hand, maybe one-handed users should be ostracized and shamed ;-0
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drazgoth
4 days ago
I'm happy with the larger screen, reading things off the 5s was getting to be a strain on my eyes (even with glasses) so a larger screen is certainly welcome. I have larger than average hands but even then I do use the reachability function rather frequently since I don't want to change the position of my hand, and find it easier to just do the double tap instead. It was wise to keep the 5S around still, I will admit thought they might want to consider keeping something in the 5S/5C/5 size though. The iPhone in a smaller size really is a nifty device, with it bigger is a bit of a change, but for me certainly welcome.
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melvinwalker
But is a larger screen going to mean larger text? I'm skeptical.
4 days ago
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