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Lion Internet connection drops (imac)

digipol

digipol

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Nov 2, 2011
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After upgrading from sl to lion my internet connection (on my IMAC) is not stable anymore . I mean direct connection and WIFI!

System preference (network) tells me I have internet.
Mail and safari are showing me often the opposite. It happens I have internet, but suddenly it disappears.

Restarting router does not help.

Sometimes rebooting iMac helps...

How can I fix this?
My IPAD works fine with the same WIFI (router...)
 
digipol said:
After upgrading from sl to lion my internet connection (on my IMAC) is not stable anymore . I mean direct connection and WIFI!

System preference (network) tells me I have internet.
Mail and safari are showing me often the opposite. It happens I have internet, but suddenly it disappears.

Restarting router does not help.

Sometimes rebooting iMac helps...

How can I fix this?
My IPAD works fine with the same WIFI (router...)
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Same here, on both my iMac and My MacBook Pro & MacBook. If anyone knows a fix, please do tell.
 
My first-generation 17-inch MacBook Pro, which can't be upgraded to Lion, continues to be plagued by Wi-Fi dropouts. Do you guys think Lion is the culprit, too? Should I kindly request a refund for an installation that never happened and can't happen?
 
Ignoring the waste of space response above…I'm also seeing this issue on a new MBA 13". Wifi works just fine on the IPad and a MBP running SL.

Anyone know of the cause to the dropped wifi? As you can guess, it can get frustrating.
 
Add me to the list of people with wifi problems with lion. But mine is different I'm connected to an ap and when downloading, the downloads continue until they finish but firefox or safari can't open to new pages (even when downloading stuff!). Stays loading forever until I get an error. But the downloads keep on going.
 
My wifi stays on, but my mini server on wired lan drops internet during sleep. I have to shutdown Safari, then restart Safari to kick it back online upon waking. It's not the router, it's Lion.
 
yep me too

2011 iMac & MBA '11 are both having the same problems everyone mentioned here ever since upgrading version/firmware to 10.7.2 on Friday. Meanwhile my poor, pathetic Blackbook (2008) with a severely dimmed screen is fine (happily running snow leopard, of course).
I spent 3.5 hrs on the phone with Apple Support today and they basically got it so my MBA could intermittently send and receive e-mail & load safari pages. My iMac is an "i"-brick right now. Utterly frustrated doesn't even begin to describe how I feel. Had most of my day wasted only to wind up with less than 50% chance of being functionally "connected." Oh, and both Apple specialists I spoke to refused to acknowledge that it might have something to do with Lion, even though the only system that works is running SL and both my Lion systems started having the same problem at the same time!
BLERG!
 
srf4real said:
It's not the router, it's Lion.
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No, most definitely, it is NOT Lion. It's a hardware issue. There are seven Macs in my house. Some of them run more than one version of OS X. Three of them run Lion and not one of them has Wi-Fi dropouts. Two of them run Snow Leopard and one of these has Wi-Fi dropouts. Three of them run Leopard and none of them has Wi-Fi dropouts. Finally, one of them runs Tiger and it has no Wi-Fi dropouts. So, no. Not one single case of "Lion Wi-Fi dropout"; only one of "Snow Leopard dropout", but I'm convinced it isn't an OS issue, but purely a hardware issue, meaning the internal antenna picks up interference or something and loses the router signal. That's all there is to it.
 
PeterHolbrook said:
No, most definitely, it is NOT Lion. It's a hardware issue. There are seven Macs in my house. Some of them run more than one version of OS X. Three of them run Lion and not one of them has Wi-Fi dropouts. Two of them run Snow Leopard and one of these has Wi-Fi dropouts. Three of them run Leopard and none of them has Wi-Fi dropouts. Finally, one of them runs Tiger and it has no Wi-Fi dropouts. So, no. Not one single case of "Lion Wi-Fi dropout"; only one of "Snow Leopard dropout", but I'm convinced it isn't an OS issue, but purely a hardware issue, meaning the internal antenna picks up interference or something and loses the router signal. That's all there is to it.
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So because you (one person) doesn't have Lion dropouts but hundreds of people (this thread and many others) have Lion dropouts proves it isn't Lion but hundreds of broken routers? I'm not following this logic. I too have dropout problems with Lion (never SnowLeopard). But, mine are only on 5g. I have 5 laptops in my house (4 windows and 1 mac). All the windows machines work perfectly with the 5g but the Mac drops constantly. I guess my router is broken? Oh, and I forgot to mention I've tried multiple routers to no avail.

I would be interested in knowing if others are using 5g and dropping out.
 
PeterHolbrook said:
No, most definitely, it is NOT Lion...
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In your case I can agree. In my case, it is most definitely Lion. It is Lion 10.7.2, to be exact. :cool::rolleyes:

eternalife, yes, 5G wifi drops as well as wired lan. My other household macs (not on lion) share this connection without interruption. My mini server was fine until the 10.7.2 update. All my iToys and iPhones are on the 3G band, without interruption as well.
 
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eternalife said:
So because you (one person) doesn't have Lion dropouts but hundreds of people (this thread and many others) have Lion dropouts proves it isn't Lion but hundreds of broken routers?
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Hundreds of people? Where are they? And what about the hundreds of thousands that use Lion throughout the world without one single incident? If it's Lion, there ought to be hundreds of thousands of complaints, if not millions! And who spoke about broken routers? I spoke about faulty internal antennas (or too sensitive antennas, prone to pick up interference) in a few computers themselves. It's not Lion. My MacBook Pro has never had Lion, CAN'T have Lion and it has ALWAYS had Wi-Fi dropouts, both when it had Leopard and now it has Snow Leopard. And you say it's Lion's fault? That's rubbish.

By the way, I'll tell you what I do when my 17-inch MacBook Pro with SL drops the Wi-Fi connection. I simply turn Wi-Fi off and then back on. It always works. This happens about two or three times a month. That's all there is to it. I suspect it's an interference issue that only affects that particular computer, and it only happens when it's in the kitchen, not in other places, but I can't figure out what precisely causes it.
 
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PeterHolbrook said:
My first-generation 17-inch MacBook Pro, which can't be upgraded to Lion, continues to be plagued by Wi-Fi dropouts. Do you guys think Lion is the culprit, too? Should I kindly request a refund for an installation that never happened and can't happen?
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Yes it's Lion. I had the same WIFI dropout problem with Lion. Now on Snow Leopard my WIFI is stable again.
 
PeterHolbrook said:
blah blah blah
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You don't seem to understand that it is not limited to wifi connections. And you also don't seem to understand that just because you have not noticed a problem , does not prove that there is not one. Not to be a dick, but you can shut up now and eat your foot while you visit a handful of links I found in a quick and unextensive search.:cool:

http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os-x-operating-system/245332-please-help-lion-osx-wifi-problem.html

http://macficionado.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/weird-network-connection-problem/

http://www.mac-software-tutorials.com/internet-connection-drops-in-mac-os-x-lion.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjbKXYOGW3c

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1192126/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1195612/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1206655/

http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/22/wifi-dropping-in-os-x-lion-fixes/

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3193564?start=0&tstart=0

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3222447?start=0&tstart=0

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3192395?start=105&tstart=0

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3191630?start=0&tstart=0
 
srf4real said:
blah, blah, blah, drool
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You don't seem to understand that this thread is about loss of Wi-Fi connections, which has nothing to do whatsoever with Lion. Period.

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mark28 said:
Yes it's Lion. I had the same WIFI dropout problem with Lion. Now on Snow Leopard my WIFI is stable again.
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No, it isn't Lion. My Snow Leopard Wi-Fi unstable connection gets stable when I turn Wi-Fi off and on again. And my Lion Wi-Fi connections are ALWAYS stable. So, no, it isn't Lion, Q.E.D.
 
PeterHolbrook said:
Hundreds of people? Where are they? And what about the hundreds of thousands that use Lion throughout the world without one single incident? If it's Lion, there ought to be hundreds of thousands of complaints, if not millions! And who spoke about broken routers? I spoke about faulty internal antennas (or too sensitive antennas, prone to pick up interference) in a few computers themselves. It's not Lion. My MacBook Pro has never had Lion, CAN'T have Lion and it has ALWAYS had Wi-Fi dropouts, both when it had Leopard and now it has Snow Leopard. And you say it's Lion's fault? That's rubbish.

By the way, I'll tell you what I do when my 17-inch MacBook Pro with SL drops the Wi-Fi connection. I simply turn Wi-Fi off and then back on. It always works. This happens about two or three times a month. That's all there is to it. I suspect it's an interference issue that only affects that particular computer, and it only happens when it's in the kitchen, not in other places, but I can't figure out what precisely causes it.
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Search this site and others and if you can't find hunderds of people you aren't looking.

Just because thousands of people don't have issues doesn't mean it isn't a bug. Youi must have no experience in software development, testing, etc. I code and support software for a living and MOST of the bugs I create/fix/troubleshoot are NOT wide spread to all users. They are specific under certain circumstances, etc. So to say that just because a ton of users don't have issues doesn't eliminate the OS.

My 'broken' term was relative. You blame the routers, I blame the OS. How could I run SL with NOT a single issue whatsoever (no exageration) and now that I'm running Lion I have issues. It's the same router and same configuration. Now, I will resign to your statements about sensitive antennas, interference, etc. but the OS should handle this and Lion appears to not handle it as well as other Operating Systems.

And to summarize - it appears Apple recognizes network problems and has claimed a fix under .2. This is taken from their release notes: Address an issue that causes a delay in accessing the network after waking from sleep. I had this issue and it seems to be fixed. However, I still have other issues.
 
eternalife said:
Search this site and others and if you can't find hunderds of people you aren't looking.
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Ha! Search the world, and if you can't find hundreds of thousands of happy Lion users you are blind. As for software development, I've programmed in Fortran IV, Visual Basic, C, C++ and Java, among other languages. I know what a bug is, and I also know how certain users are particularly prone to experiencing problems. Apple has attempted to "repair" Wi-Fi issues ever since Leopard, if I remember correctly, but it only seems to affect certain machines.
 
By the way, to the noob digipol who originated this post, sorry about the pissing contest that has ensued. If you follow some of the links I provided in my above post, you will find that you are not alone in your internet issues under Lion and that there are many solutions that have been found by other users, one may work for you- so check out the links. I hope Apple just fixes the bug soon.:)
 
PeterHolbrook said:
You don't seem to understand that this thread is about loss of Wi-Fi connections, which has nothing to do whatsoever with Lion. Period.

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No, it isn't Lion. My Snow Leopard Wi-Fi unstable connection gets stable when I turn Wi-Fi off and on again. And my Lion Wi-Fi connections are ALWAYS stable. So, no, it isn't Lion, Q.E.D.
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It is Lion. I did 3 clean Lion installation, with all installations I experienced WIFI drops out while I had 5 full bars :rolleyes:

With Snow Leopord my WIFI never drops. So it's Lion, 100%.

And there is nothing wrong with my Router btw. The other computers in my house all have been working excellent with WIFI.
 
digipol said:
After upgrading from sl to lion my internet connection (on my IMAC) is not stable anymore . I mean direct connection and WIFI! ...
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You mean this isn't only a wifi issue but direct connection as well? :eek:

So's mine. But it's not really an issue; it's all in our heads. Lion is perfect.

Peter Holbrook is an expert beyond reproach.
 
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If it is Lion, then why do some people who are on 10.7.2 not have the problem, and others do? If it was Lion, wouldn't all be affected? I have a 2008 macbook, and a 2011 iMac with 10.7.2 and do not have any problems. Haven't had any drops since installing. Could it be a router/Lion issue and not just Lion? I have an airport extreme base station, btw. Not doubting that it is an issue, just trying to to understand what is going on.
 
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mark28 said:
It is Lion. I did 3 clean Lion installation, with all installations I experienced WIFI drops out while I had 5 full bars :rolleyes:

With Snow Leopord my WIFI never drops. So it's Lion, 100%.

And there is nothing wrong with my Router btw. The other computers in my house all have been working excellent with WIFI.
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No, sorry, but no. It isn't Lion. I have three computers with Lion and none of them has Wi-Fi dropouts. So, sorry, but no. My only MacBook Pro, which can't have Lion, has Wi-Fi dropouts with Snow Leopard, and before that it experienced occasional Wi-Fi dropouts with Leopard.

So, sorry, but hard as you may try to convince us otherwise, you won't convince us Wi-Fi dropouts are related to Lion. That has zero chances of being true. So sorry. It isn't Lion. Get over it.
 
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