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pshufd

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This is faster than my M1 Pro MacBook Pro. Battery life is awful but it's not going to be used on battery. It's your typical gaming laptop that's thick, heavy, lots of fan holes and it weighs six pounds. We were looking at the Asus Zephyrus with 5xxx series GPUs but the price savings of 4xxx is pretty huge. One definite thing to notice is that Intel laptops are segmented to thin and light Lunar Lake with integrated graphics or 14th gen Raptor Lake Refresh and discrete GPUs. What would be interesting is Lunar Lake with a dGPU.

I was pleasantly surprised on RAM and Storage for the price. There's an empty fifth gen NVMe slot to add another 4 TB and the SODIMMs are replaceable so it's easy to upgrade to 64 GB of RAM if desired. PSU is 280 watts.
 
Curious, if its just going to be used plugged in anyways, why didnt you go for a desktop?

It's not for me and it will be used in multiple places. But it will have power in those places.

I already have a Windows PC at home and an Intel MacBook Pro which is currently set up with Windows via Boot Camp.
 
Picked it up from Costco today and it will get set up sometime tonight or tomorrow. Beast of a machine. I suspect that it's faster than my M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16 but it uses ten times the power too.
 
Pretty impressed with this system. It's now the fastest system in the house. Big-little on Intel is impressive and it's been around long enough for them to have worked out the bugs. 16 efficiency cores and 8 performance - for the most part, I think that the performance cores won't get used. I could actually see myself using the 18 inch version - it would meet my needs better than my M1 Pro 16 in terms of the display. It just wouldn't work for battery life. It is a very nice laptop if you know that you have a power outlet handy.

My impression of MSI (first we've owned), is that it has excellent build quality and stuff that's complicated that you have to RTM on seems to work. We'll see how good they are at longer-term support and making BIOS and driver updates down the road.
 
I got to play around with it this morning and it's a seriously impressive system, particularly for the price. The i9-14900HX is very responsive. I'm not a big GPU user but the 4070 is also very impressive in Geekbench scores. This system runs one of my trading programs really smoothly but the only downside is that it uses 25-30 watts to run it. If I were to use it for trading, battery life would probably be about two hours (I normally run other stuff too). I can run my whole setup for about six hours on battery on my M1 Pro MacBook Pro. It is possible that battery life is better with M4 but I don't know.

So this is a very nice system and would be better for trading except for battery life, which is a big deal. If I could always guarantee an outlet, I'd consider the MSI Raider 18 with 4k display.

I still dislike Windows 11 but you gotta do what you gotta do.
 
I got to play around with it this morning and it's a seriously impressive system, particularly for the price. The i9-14900HX is very responsive. I'm not a big GPU user but the 4070 is also very impressive in Geekbench scores. This system runs one of my trading programs really smoothly but the only downside is that it uses 25-30 watts to run it. If I were to use it for trading, battery life would probably be about two hours (I normally run other stuff too). I can run my whole setup for about six hours on battery on my M1 Pro MacBook Pro. It is possible that battery life is better with M4 but I don't know.

So this is a very nice system and would be better for trading except for battery life, which is a big deal. If I could always guarantee an outlet, I'd consider the MSI Raider 18 with 4k display.

I still dislike Windows 11 but you gotta do what you gotta do.
It is unfortunately a large downfall of the high powered windows laptops, great for a desktop replacement, but not really much of a true laptop replacement. Thats why I use an m2 air for a laptop and have a full blown windows gaming desktop as well. Best of both worlds

I honestly dont mind windows 11, but its main use is for gaming or browsing, not for any actual work. 13700k at 5.5ghz with an RTX 4080. Beast of a system, but trying to squeeze that power into a laptop form generally doesnt work out lol
 
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