M1 MBA waking up from sleep on battery

[Quaresma_7]

Hi everyone,
just a quick intro - I'm far from a beginner, but completely new to Mac (a couple weeks now with the MBA M1), loving most of it and working around some issues and finding ways to accomplish some things that I'm used to with Windows, grasping Apple logic as well.

Recently, I discovered pmset and disabled most of the wake up functions to maximize sleep battery. Now, I left my Macbook on sleep with 51% battery two days ago. I open it up only today and it's at 46%, which is quite good I guess. I go and check "pmset -g log" and it shows that it woke up two or three times in that period, reasons being bluetooth beacons, contacts sync or whatever (I can post a log for you to check out). I've turned off "wake for network access" in Preferences, as well as a few options in pmset, as recommended elsewhere and with understanding of the options.

I'd like the computer not to wake up at all if I leave it on battery-powered sleep for a week or any period of time. I don't want to leave any chance for a wakelock in a bag that would deplete the battery.

Here's the log for you to take a look. Thanks

2021-06-12 17:11:25 +0200 Sleep Entering Sleep state due to 'Soft - Pastebin.com

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Oh yeah Bluetooth has been disabled from day 1, but now I've also disabled the advanced option of letting Bluetooth devices wake the computer up from sleep.

 

[0128672]

I don’t have an answer to sleep question, but if you’re not going to use it for a week, why not just shut it down?

 

[Tech198]

App nap is still there right ?

 

[Apple_Robert]

Several people on the forum have run into their M1 waking from sleep several times. during the night etc. I don't recall seeing a fix. I agree with @WildSky Shut down completely if is going to be more than a few days. There is no real point in keeping it running if you know you aren't going to using it for a week.

 

[Quaresma_7]

I don’t have an answer to sleep question, but if you’re not going to use it for a week, why not just shut it down?

That's common sense, but sometimes it will happen that you'll just close the lid and not use the computer for several days for one reason or another. I used 'week' arbitrarily. And when that happens, you don't want to find the computer with a depleted battery.

App nap is still there right ?

I'm just finding out about this, and the Activity Monitor shows that certain apps' App Nap status is 'yes'. But could you expand on how this should help my case?

Several people on the forum have run into their M1 waking from sleep several times. during the night etc. I don't recall seeing a fix. I agree with @WildSky Shut down completely if is going to be more than a few days. There is no real point in keeping it running if you know you aren't going to using it for a week.

As above, you don't want to allow for potential bugs to create a situation for you. Better safe than sorry. Please don't take this personally, but reading this piece of advice just sounded like Jobs and Ive themselves telling me I'm holding it wrong xD

Another update: since leaving it on sleep last night to opening it up this night, the log showed no new wake events.

 

[Apple_Robert]

That's common sense, but sometimes it will happen that you'll just close the lid and not use the computer for several days for one reason or another. I used 'week' arbitrarily. And when that happens, you don't want to find the computer with a depleted battery.

I'm just finding out about this, and the Activity Monitor shows that certain apps' App Nap status is 'yes'. But could you expand on how this should help my case?

As above, you don't want to allow for potential bugs to create a situation for you. Better safe than sorry. Please don't take this personally, but reading this piece of advice just sounded like Jobs and Ive themselves telling me I'm holding it wrong xD

Another update: since leaving it on sleep last night to opening it up this night, the log showed no new wake events.

If you read my post as insulting or dismissive, that is on you as there was nothing in my post that conveyed such a thing, nor was there any intent on my part for such a retort. I attempted to be of help in some manner. I can't summon an answer out of thin air.

It is not nice to insult people on the forum who tried to be got help in some fashion.

 

[chabig]

App nap is still there right ?

Is that what Power Nap is called in Activity Monitor? The ability to turn that on or off doesn't exist on M1 Macs because they have dedicated low power cores that take care of what Power Nap used to do on Intel machines. It's built in and always on.

 

[Tech198]

yes. in activity monitor.

something must be still waking despite power settings... i choose to believe some network requests still must be on always regardless of settings and cannot be all disabled. Very similar to the option "Prevet hard drives from sleeping" doesn't extent to external drives, only internal ones.

One thing you could try is leave network disconnected all night disconnect cable if eithernet, or turn of Wi-fi in status bar.. If Mac stays asleep, then you've found the culprit.

Had another peak at log at the perhaps DNSresponder is doing it ??

 

[Quaresma_7]

If you read my post as insulting or dismissive, that is on you as there was nothing in my post that conveyed such a thing, nor was there any intent on my part for such a retort. I attempted to be of help in some manner. I can't summon an answer out of thin air.

It is not nice to insult people on the forum who tried to be got help in some fashion.

I am sorry about that, I didn't just prefix my message with a generic "don't take it personally", I really meant no offense and just wanted to honestly tell you what the non-technical suggestion sounded like to me. It was supposed to be a bit funny, not offensive at all. I took no offense from your suggestion either, whatsoever. Thank you for joining the discussion, I appreciate it.

yes. in activity monitor.

something must be still waking despite power settings... i choose to believe some network requests still must be on always regardless of settings and cannot be all disabled. Very similar to the option "Prevet hard drives from sleeping" doesn't extent to external drives, only internal ones.

One thing you could try is leave network disconnected all night disconnect cable if eithernet, or turn of Wi-fi in status bar.. If Mac stays asleep, then you've found the culprit.

Had another peak at log at the perhaps DNSresponder is doing it ??

At the moment I'm using the Macbook as a secondary computer as I haven't had the time to set up everything I need, so I turned it on again in the evening after leaving it on sleep the night before. No wakes or suspicious activities in the 20-ish hours, and the day before was the same, I'm happy with that. The battery lost 2% each day, which is quite good.

The only thing that seems off to me at the moment is that a scheduled event that I sudo deleted has reappeared (it has to do with the weekly screen time report and it's not supposed to be visible to the user if the computer is on sleep, but I think the OS takes that opportunity to do some background work).

I'll follow up on this and monitor the mDNSresponder, see if there's anything unusual there. Thank you for your suggestions