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So far, M1 Pro and Max look fantastic and it's really important for GPU history cause NOBODY CANT MAKE IT BUT APPLE. We predicted that 32 core might be mobile 3070's level but we probably need to compare with mobile 3080 cause Apple compared a laptop with a high end GPU which consumes 170W base on their image.

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16 cores on the other hand was predicted to be like 5600M but it seems we are wrong. It's 2.5 times faster than 5600M. We might need to expect mobile 3080's performance with 32 cores.

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In terms of power consumption and performance, it's truly revolutionary. Mobile RTX 3070 consumes 125W and mobile RTX 3080 consumes more. Well, it looks like M1 Max's 32 core consumes almost 60W instead of 40W but that's still great.

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There are few concerns that M1 Pro and Max need to prove such as memory bandwidth and actual performance. Typically, GDDR6 and HBM2e has way faster bandwidth and nobody ever used LPDDR5 for pro GPU. Yes, some people still joking and questioning about the memory bandwidth with Apple Silicon so we really need to wait and see how it performs.

If M1 Pro and Max truly prove that it perform as good as mobile 3070 or higher and consume less than 60W, I can call it revolutionary. The GPU industry always had a problem with a power consumption and they are increasing the power consumption every single generation which is a huge concern. But if Apple proves that GPU can perform better but consume less, it will impact the GPU market. Both AMD and Nvidia cant do that and they will be shocked.

Thoughts?
 

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Mac Cube
  • 20-core CPU (16P/4E)
  • 64-core GPU
  • 32-core Neural Engine
  • 128GB RAM
  • 1TB SSD
  • (2) 10Gb Ethernet ports
  • (6) USB-C ports
  • (4) USB-A ports
  • HDMI port
  • 3.5mm audio port
$4999
 
Mac Cube
  • 20-core CPU (16P/4E)
  • 64-core GPU
  • 32-core Neural Engine
  • 128GB RAM
  • 1TB SSD
  • (2) 10Gb Ethernet ports
  • (6) USB-C ports
  • (4) USB-A ports
  • HDMI port
  • 3.5mm audio port
$4999
I hope a high end iMac starts from $2000.
 
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Apple has gone a different route with there GPU. Also with a seperate media engine and machine learning engine then what goes into AMD, Nividia GPU done is seperate silicon prices rather then GPU.

For instance with the ProRes encode then offloads that from CPU. The decode offloads from GPU. Is a different model to how directx etc works which Apple can do with its own model.
 
Its pretty mind-blowing. This has been the first Apple event in a long time to actually exceed my expectations! For GPU performance, there's also the factor of the binned chips that should e considered. If the 32 core can approach a 3080m then the binned 24 core should fall somewhere near a 3070m while consuming even less energy than the 32 core! On the 14" the binned 14 core could still be on par with or even surpass a maxed out 2019 16"!

And that's all on a chip designed for laptops where battery life and heat play a factor. No doubt the M1 Pro and Max will make their way to the Mac mini as well but where things could really get interesting is on the larger iMac and the Mac Pro. By then, we could also have further GPU core improvements.

Seems like Apple has more than just Intel in their crosshairs...
 
I really loved the new specs, design, getting rid of all the gimmicks etc. That was real good and now EAGERLY waiting for the new bigger imac which I prefer to use at home.
 
Mac Cube
  • 20-core CPU (16P/4E)
  • 64-core GPU
  • 32-core Neural Engine
  • 128GB RAM
  • 1TB SSD
  • (2) 10Gb Ethernet ports
  • (6) USB-C ports
  • (4) USB-A ports
  • HDMI port
  • 3.5mm audio port
$4999
I expect this to be a bit off based on your other predictions. No base-level Mac is offered with >16GB RAM unless the starting price exceeds $3,000.
 
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