M4 Max can you test this video editing for me

[waloshin]

Anyone can test with the data Filen Drive . I do make money with my video editing just need to see if spending three times as much on a Mini Pro is worth it compared to base mini.

Possibly there would be no difference between them I am thinking their maybe a diminishing return which such low res video.

My results:

Windows 11 13700K, RTX 3080 10 Gb, 64 GB DDR5 ram
-9 minuts 42 seconds Premiere Pro
- Noise very high
- 550 watts power consumption


Mac mini M4 Base 16 GB Ram, 256 GB internal space

-10 minutes 43 seconds Premiere Pro 15 Mbps fan noticeable.

- 11 minutes 42 Minutes Final Cut Pro at 3 Mbps bitrate internal drive to internal

- 9 minutes 52 seconds Final Cut Pro at 3 Mbps bitrate internal drive to external will test at 15 Mb/s bitrate when I get compressor.

*7 minutes 30 seconds when video was rendered previously.

- Noise did not hear fan at all

- 60 watts power consumption.

I would like to see if the new M4 Max with two media engines makes a difference.

 

[rds]

I would like to see if the new M4 Max with two media engines makes a difference.

Your export settings specify software encoding so the Mini was using the CPU, you need to specific hardware encoding to go through the media engine/GPU.

If this is specifically for older video you might be better off using software encoding anyway because it will retain more detail at much smaller file sizes. Hardware encoding is more suited to high quality video.

Either way, more CPU cores will speed up software encoding, 2x media engine will be close to 2x faster at hardware encoding.

 

[waloshin]

Your export settings specify software encoding so the Mini was using the CPU, you need to specific hardware encoding to go through the media engine/GPU.

If this is specifically for older video you might be better off using software encoding anyway because it will retain more detail at much smaller file sizes. Hardware encoding is more suited to high quality video.

Either way, more CPU cores will speed up software encoding, 2x media engine will be close to 2x faster at hardware encoding.

How do you tell it to use the media encoder?

H265 is the only one that uses the media encoder for faster exports not H264?

If so H265 exported at 6:28

H264 13:33 seconds

But yes the media encoder H265 looks much worse than H264 which is unacceptable to my customers therefore a M4 Max would have no benefit I’d imagine over a M4.

H265 Media encoder on the left, H264 on the right.

 

[rds]

How do you tell it to use the media encoder?

H265 is the only one that uses the media encoder for faster exports not H264?

The media engine supports H.264, H.265/HEVC, or ProRes (in FCP.) Premiere Pro requires you to select H264 or HEVC and specify Hardware Encoding in the export settings. Final Cut Pro doesn't need configuring.

But yes the media encoder H265 looks much worse than H264 which is unacceptable to my customers therefore a M4 Max would have no benefit I’d imagine over a M4.

Well, the M4 Pro/Max has at least 14 (8P+4E) CPU cores compared to 8 (4P+4E) on the M4 so software encoding will be significantly quicker.

 

[waloshin]

I will test a M4 Pro but I think for my workflow I am more than happy with the M4 and will later see if I want to go with a M5 or M5 pro next year as I just switched back from Windows this year after 14 years…

 

[waloshin]

The media engine supports H.264, H.265/HEVC, or ProRes (in FCP.) Premiere Pro requires you to select H264 or HEVC and specify Hardware Encoding in the export settings. Final Cut Pro doesn't need configuring.

Well, the M4 Pro/Max has at least 14 (8P+4E) CPU cores compared to 8 (4P+4E) on the M4 so software encoding will be significantly quicker.

Hardware encoding will not work at all no matter if you choose h264 or h265

 

[sevenMG]

Hardware encoding will not work at all no matter if you choose h264 or h265

That might be 2 pass vs 1 pass - 2 pass for some reason is software encoding only

 

[waloshin]

That might be 2 pass vs 1 pass - 2 pass for some reason is software encoding only

Okay will look into that later.

 

[rds]

Okay will look into that later.

It's probably because you're trying to export H.264 HDR, I doubt that's supported.