Hi everyone, I'm new to this whole thing; but hopefully some of you smart Mac people can help me out with something. I have two B & W G3's one at 333mhz with 128MB of Ram and one at 400mhz with 1GB of RAM. Currently both machines have OX 10.2.8 installed - and nothing else (no OS 8 or 9) . I'm trying to get these machines upgraded to Tiger; but I believe I must upgrade the firmware first; so obviously I need to get a 9.2 version installed in order to do so. I have a genuine copy of OS 9 and when I put it in the CD tray and hold down C to boot - the system starts to read the drive; it flashes a couple times - then i get a gray screen and the MAC ejects my CD. This happens on both of my G3's - so I have a feeling it is not the CD player that is the problem. I'm not opposed to doing new installs, new partitions or anything else - i just need to know why my disk keeps ejecting. Thanks, B
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Mac is ejecting the CD during boot
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Everything I have read indicates that you can't be running OS X when trying to upgrade firmware from a Blue and White G3. I have downloaded some of them and when i mount the image; the OS X tries to launch the application in Classic mode (to which I mentioned earlier - I don't have installed)
By going through OS X do you mean putting the OS 9 CD in the drive and trying to install it that way? if so - when i click on the install OS 9 icon, i get a classic environment that tries to start and an error saying that there are no classic environments to start. Am I doing something wrong? how did you do it? keep in mind - Macs are kinda new to me as far as all this install and config goes. thanks, B
You do NOT have to update the firmware for the Blue and Whites.
Mine are running the orginal firmware and running Tiger fine.
All the new firmware does is block out a G4 CPU from just dropping in and working.
Mine are running the orginal firmware and running Tiger fine.
All the new firmware does is block out a G4 CPU from just dropping in and working.
Yes i have the DVD version of Tiger. I've tried with both an external USB DVD drive and an external Firewire Drive to get the Tiger DVD to boot and neither of them work. The USB drive is one of those which is powered by the USB port (it does not have its own power supply) - but why the External Firewire drive does not boot; i don't know. When i'm in OS 10.2 and i put the DVD in the drive, everything seems fine. I double click the icon to start the install - the system says it will reboot and start and it reboots and just starts up 10.2 again. i've tried holding C, i've tried holding the "T" for target mode, i've tried the option key, absolutely nothing works.
Balloon Knot said:
have you tried changing the startup disk by opening "system preferences", then selecting "startup disk" and then selecting the DVD as the startup disk.....and then restarting? I've heard of people being able to get the computer to bootup from the dvd disk this way when nothing else seems to be working
Mac Ejecting Cd during boot
You dont need to update your firmware to the newest firmware on your blue and white G3. The only thing that this new firmware did was lockout a person from using cpu upgrade zif cpus. This firmware upgrade also sometimes would not allow certain types of memory to be used in the blue and white G3 only thing the new firmware upgrade really did.
1.) Have you tried the internal drive and boot off of it holding down the C key did you check to make sure it was a dvd drive and not just a regular cd drive. Is the drive jumper set to cableselect on the back of the drive?
2.) You cannot use external usb or firewire dvd drives to boot from. The blue and white G3s do not support this feature. Only the newer macs with newer firmware support booting external drives such as G4's, emacs etc... and its only firewire drives I think that can boot and not usb drives. Also the blue and white does not support target firewire disk mode.
3.) If none of the above works you might also try setting the internal cd drive to master on the jumper setting and see if that works. Also does the drive work in osx just to read a cd ? Just checking to make sure the internal drive is not broken.
4.) I was also thinking what install disc set is this is this an aftermarket apple osx tiger install dvd? or is this an upgrade dvd set for an emac or another type of mac. Some of the apple install sets are locked to that type of apple computer and will not work on certain other types of macs?
Chris
You dont need to update your firmware to the newest firmware on your blue and white G3. The only thing that this new firmware did was lockout a person from using cpu upgrade zif cpus. This firmware upgrade also sometimes would not allow certain types of memory to be used in the blue and white G3 only thing the new firmware upgrade really did.
1.) Have you tried the internal drive and boot off of it holding down the C key did you check to make sure it was a dvd drive and not just a regular cd drive. Is the drive jumper set to cableselect on the back of the drive?
2.) You cannot use external usb or firewire dvd drives to boot from. The blue and white G3s do not support this feature. Only the newer macs with newer firmware support booting external drives such as G4's, emacs etc... and its only firewire drives I think that can boot and not usb drives. Also the blue and white does not support target firewire disk mode.
3.) If none of the above works you might also try setting the internal cd drive to master on the jumper setting and see if that works. Also does the drive work in osx just to read a cd ? Just checking to make sure the internal drive is not broken.
4.) I was also thinking what install disc set is this is this an aftermarket apple osx tiger install dvd? or is this an upgrade dvd set for an emac or another type of mac. Some of the apple install sets are locked to that type of apple computer and will not work on certain other types of macs?
Chris