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iMac 27" (fusion drive no less) + iPad Pro 10.5" owner here for personal use, while I use a Lenovo X1 for work-- used to bring it to an office today, but of course working remote most of this year.

I've been toying with the idea of a Mac Mini and picking up an ultrawide monitor (one of the 34" <= 4k models in the $700 range, nothing too fancy) to replace the iMac and standalone monitor I keep at my desk for my work laptop, and then switching between the work laptop and the Mac Mini via which is currently plugged in to the monitor.

Of course, could accomplish with a Macbook + work laptop, but thinking is that go-to device would be work laptop or iPad + keyboard folio for a work trip (when they resume) or personal trip/vacation, respectively. Longer work trips I'd carry both the Lenovo + iPad. Extended remote work personal trips would be all three: hopefully have a home base to dock the Mac Mini + work laptop, and the iPad in a tablet role.

For Mac Mini owners, how well has the Mac Mini worked out as a portable desktop? My main hesitation over a Macbook would be lack of battery, so would generally want a UPS which wouldn't necessarily be available.
 
iMac 27" (fusion drive no less) + iPad Pro 10.5" owner here for personal use, while I use a Lenovo X1 for work-- used to bring it to an office today, but of course working remote most of this year.

I've been toying with the idea of a Mac Mini and picking up an ultrawide monitor (one of the 34" <= 4k models in the $700 range, nothing too fancy) to replace the iMac and standalone monitor I keep at my desk for my work laptop, and then switching between the work laptop and the Mac Mini via which is currently plugged in to the monitor.

Of course, could accomplish with a Macbook + work laptop, but thinking is that go-to device would be work laptop or iPad + keyboard folio for a work trip (when they resume) or personal trip/vacation, respectively. Longer work trips I'd carry both the Lenovo + iPad. Extended remote work personal trips would be all three: hopefully have a home base to dock the Mac Mini + work laptop, and the iPad in a tablet role.

For Mac Mini owners, how well has the Mac Mini worked out as a portable desktop? My main hesitation over a Macbook would be lack of battery, so would generally want a UPS which wouldn't necessarily be available.
Go for it. It’s ideal.
 
I now have a MacMini+Ultrawide, a 13" MacBook Pro, and a 12.9" iPad+keyboard. The MBP is older and I bought the iPad+keyboard to 'replace it' while on the go but then COVID hit and all three have sat on my desk. At this point, I'm almost 100% MacMini+UW monitor use case and frankly dont want to go back to the MBP or iPad unless I have to. I can't speak to it's portability but I love the MM+UW monitor (actually I'm driving an UW and a 27" but that is another story for another time) for stationary use. I'm also not sure iPadOS can cut it for my on-the-go use, it's still not a laptop replacement for me...but I was going to give it a go and see before the troubles hit.
 
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I now have a MacMini+Ultrawide, a 13" MacBook Pro, and a 12.9" iPad+keyboard. The MBP is older and I bought the iPad+keyboard to 'replace it' while on the go but then COVID hit and all three have sat on my desk. At this point, I'm almost 100% MacMini+UW monitor use case and frankly dont want to go back to the MBP or iPad unless I have to. I can't speak to it's portability but I love the MM+UW monitor (actually I'm driving an UW and a 27" but that is another story for another time) for stationary use. I'm also not sure iPadOS can cut it for my on-the-go use, it's still not a laptop replacement for me...but I was going to give it a go and see before the troubles hit.
How is the 12.9” iPad + keyboard deficient for your uses? Am thinking of getting this to complement my Mac Mini, as opposed to an iPad.
 
This echos the position I was in too. I've been using Apple laptops since 2003, but can count on one hand how many times I've moved my 2016 MBP from my desk. Since the start of quarantine I've had my MBP and my work laptop permanently connected to an external monitor and swapped my Apple keyboard/mouse for Logitech ones that allow me to seemlessly switch between both machines with a touch of a button.

I was already contemplating a Mac Mini since there's no longer any real need to carry my MBP anywhere anymore. For basic stuff and travel I can use my iPad Pro. When the M1 Mac Mini was announced I placed a pre-order and early benchmarks make it seem as though it will outperform my high spec 2016 MBP so I shouldn't be missing out on anything.

So yeah, I say go for it. If you can do most tasks on your iPad when you need to travel and don't need portability of a MBP on a regular basis, then there's nothing holding you back. Utilizing a large monitor is so much nicer than working on a 15" screen.
 
I have owned a Mac mini since 2010 and I never considered it a "portable desktop" because I never move it around.

As for portable/travel devices I have both a Windows ultrabook (which replaced a MacBook Air 2019) and a five-year old Retina iPad mini.

With ongoing local shelter-in-place policies, the Windows ultrabook gets the least usage right now. I use the iPad mini a lot in bed or when I'm out by the pool.
 
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I now have a MacMini+Ultrawide, a 13" MacBook Pro, and a 12.9" iPad+keyboard. The MBP is older and I bought the iPad+keyboard to 'replace it' while on the go but then COVID hit and all three have sat on my desk. At this point, I'm almost 100% MacMini+UW monitor use case and frankly dont want to go back to the MBP or iPad unless I have to. I can't speak to it's portability but I love the MM+UW monitor (actually I'm driving an UW and a 27" but that is another story for another time) for stationary use. I'm also not sure iPadOS can cut it for my on-the-go use, it's still not a laptop replacement for me...but I was going to give it a go and see before the troubles hit.

Thanks for the feedback! Good to know the MM+Ultrawide model is working well. Besides age, is there a reason you prefer UW + MM versus UW + MBP?

On the travel side if I expect to work, I'm pretty much tied down to the work laptop (Lenovo X1):

There are employees that use a personal mac and remote desktop in, but that makes productivity much more sensitive to internet quality when traveling and necessitates putting a corporate VPN client on the personal laptop, which I like to avoid. Lots of work I do is remotely on servers and code development, along with a more standard corporate MS Office/Webex/Visio setup. I do have lots of access to remote development servers, but try to minimize that as much as possible through Mosh (basically an asynchronous SSH) and Visual Studio Code's remote extensions to be as robust as possible over less-than-ideal hotel or family's wifi. In a pinch though, when I don't expect to do any work on a trip I also have access to a standard corporate remote desktop with any laptop or iOS/iPadOS device and without needing VPN.

Given that, it becomes difficult to justify having a personal laptop along with the work laptop, since it'd be rare I'd want to carry the personal laptop but not also the work laptop.. so I'd anticipate that the personal laptop would only be used as a desktop. I also end up not doing too much beyond browsing and (personal, not professional) photo editing on MacOS. Gaming I do mostly remote now as well-- either streamed via Moonlight from game streaming PC, or through some of the cloud streaming service.

The selection criteria would then look something like:

- Personal trips and Vacations => iPad + Smart Keyboard Folio or Magic Keyboard (+ Kindle depending on trip)
- Work-related trips => Lenovo (+ iPad and/or Kindle depending on trip)
- Extended personal trips with some work (usually around holidays) => Lenovo + iPad (+ Kindle, depending on trip)
- Pseudo "relocation" trips => Mac Mini + Lenovo + iPad + Kindle (and ideally use any extra TV or monitor that is available... potentially with a Luna adapter as a backup to use the iPad as a monitor, if not ideal)

In essence, having a monitor + keyboard/mouse + dock is a fairly typical "touchdown" setup, that I already use with my work laptop. By adding in the Mac Mini I'd be able to also gain a (very portable) desktop with that same touchdown setup. Of course, this could all be accomplished with a MBP too.. but seems like more points of failure (battery, screen, keys), more desk space when docked, etc. Admittedly, the 13" + Sidecar with the iPad is tempting, but I really wish there was a native Sidecar implementation for Windows 10 since that is where it would really be helpful (Duet hasn't been great).
 
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This echos the position I was in too. I've been using Apple laptops since 2003, but can count on one hand how many times I've moved my 2016 MBP from my desk. Since the start of quarantine I've had my MBP and my work laptop permanently connected to an external monitor and swapped my Apple keyboard/mouse for Logitech ones that allow me to seemlessly switch between both machines with a touch of a button.

I was already contemplating a Mac Mini since there's no longer any real need to carry my MBP anywhere anymore. For basic stuff and travel I can use my iPad Pro. When the M1 Mac Mini was announced I placed a pre-order and early benchmarks make it seem as though it will outperform my high spec 2016 MBP so I shouldn't be missing out on anything.

So yeah, I say go for it. If you can do most tasks on your iPad when you need to travel and don't need portability of a MBP on a regular basis, then there's nothing holding you back. Utilizing a large monitor is so much nicer than working on a 15" screen.

Yup, same position here with lockdowns... I actually have two sets of keyboard mice (logitech, apple, and an anker vertical mouse). We're contemplating doing a month long visit with a single set of family over the holidays, while working remotely from there, thus more of a short temporary relocation... which got me thinking about something like the Mac Mini being very advantageous, and better optimized for how I actually use desktops/MacOS/etc these days. The iPad is a nicer vacation machine when I don't/shouldn't be on a computer, and the work laptop for when I need to travel and do work... Mac Mini would just better de-couple the monitor from the computer (cheaper to resell and upgrade, etc), be much easier to temporarily relocate, and I could amortize a single good UW monitor between my work laptop and my desktop, rather than one of the machines being a second class citizen.
 
Thanks for the feedback! Good to know the MM+Ultrawide model is working well. Besides age, is there a reason you prefer UW + MM versus UW + MBP?

On the travel side if I expect to work, I'm pretty much tied down to the work laptop (Lenovo X1):

There are employees that use a personal mac and remote desktop in, but that makes productivity much more sensitive to internet quality when traveling and necessitates putting a corporate VPN client on the personal laptop, which I like to avoid. Lots of work I do is remotely on servers and code development, along with a more standard corporate MS Office/Webex/Visio setup. I do have lots of access to remote development servers, but try to minimize that as much as possible through Mosh (basically an asynchronous SSH) and Visual Studio Code's remote extensions to be as robust as possible over less-than-ideal hotel or family's wifi. In a pinch though, when I don't expect to do any work on a trip I also have access to a standard corporate remote desktop with any laptop or iOS/iPadOS device and without needing VPN.

Given that, it becomes difficult to justify having a personal laptop along with the work laptop, since it'd be rare I'd want to carry the personal laptop but not also the work laptop.. so I'd anticipate that the personal laptop would only be used as a desktop. I also end up not doing too much beyond browsing and (personal, not professional) photo editing on MacOS. Gaming I do mostly remote now as well-- either streamed via Moonlight from game streaming PC, or through some of the cloud streaming service.

The selection criteria would then look something like:

- Personal trips and Vacations => iPad + Smart Keyboard Folio or Magic Keyboard (+ Kindle depending on trip)
- Work-related trips => Lenovo (+ iPad and/or Kindle depending on trip)
- Extended personal trips with some work (usually around holidays) => Lenovo + iPad (+ Kindle, depending on trip)
- Pseudo "relocation" trips => Mac Mini + Lenovo + iPad + Kindle (and ideally use any extra TV or monitor that is available... potentially with a Luna adapter as a backup to use the iPad as a monitor, if not ideal)

In essence, having a monitor + keyboard/mouse + dock is a fairly typical "touchdown" setup, that I already use with my work laptop. By adding in the Mac Mini I'd be able to also gain a (very portable) desktop with that same touchdown setup. Of course, this could all be accomplished with a MBP too.. but seems like more points of failure (battery, screen, keys), more desk space when docked, etc. Admittedly, the 13" + Sidecar with the iPad is tempting, but I really wish there was a native Sidecar implementation for Windows 10 since that is where it would really be helpful (Duet hasn't been great).
Hey bwb, sorry for my delayed response, I'm not even sure if it's relevant anymore but here are a few thoughts/items from my perspective.

I started my journey about 10 years ago with a simple MacBook Air and an external monitor at home. I used the MBA 'on the go' and when I was home I would plug it into the external monitor for dual screens. Once I realized how much more productive I could be that way I began slowly buying my into the multiple-computer, multiple-monitor ecosystem. Some people have 'normal' use cases and others have unique use cases so at the end of the day everyone's set up just has to work for them. After a while I began to realize that my computer was my most important 'tool'. Meaning, it is the single device that enables me to live my life. It's how I work, communicate, play, etc. more than just about anything else. I easily spend 8 hours per day in front of a computer and some days more like 12 hours. So I began spending more and more money on computer setups. I also eventually decided that things that were meant to work together were better for me. While I enjoy tinkering now and then, work became more important and I needed things that were designed to work together and that wouldn't be 'broken' by one manufacturer's update or require constant adjustments by me when an OS or firmware updated. I was in the Apple ecosystem so I went down the Apple rabbit hole and it has worked well for me. I do pay the 'Apple tax' but it's worth it for my use case.

I solely used a 13" MBP for a couple of years. It was my travel computer and my 'desktop'. When home I would plug it into what eventually became a multi-external-monitor setup. I got to the point where I believed an external GPU was worth it and bought into the BlackMagic eGPU as well - my 2016 MBP was driving the internal monitor, an external LG ultra wide (QHD) and an LG5K Ultrafine and the BMeGPU seemed to take the load off the internal GPU. People can talk technical details all day long but my individual experience is that the eGPU helped drive all those external pixels and reduced the strain on the MBP.

My 2016 MBP began to get a little long in the tooth (it's 4 yrs old now) and I also got to the point where I disliked removing it from my home setup every time I need to run somewhere so I began looking into a replacement. I already had keyboard, mouse and external monitors (plus eGPU) so the Mac mini made a lot of sense. I was exactly who Apple is targeting with the MacMini, I already had everything I just needed a computer refresh/upgrade without breaking the bank. Also, because I already had the MBP I cold just let that sit on a shelf and grab-and-go when needed. The MacMini ended up being a relatively cheap way to have a 'desktop' setup and 'travel' setup that worked for me. Once COVID hit and everything moved to video-calls I havent used my MBP much at all. It basically sits there 90% of the time.

Separately, I bought a iPad for...well fun. Kids use it, wife uses it, it's ok for occasional very short trips around town, but it just can't replicate the work I need done from a business perspective. I must use very traditional apps for my work - Microsoft Office suite, Adobe PDF suite, chat, mail, calendar, etc. - but not in a light consumer way. I'm probably more akin to an a power user of those and I routinely need multiple spreadsheets, PDFs, research tabs/browsers, and chat/email open at all times. On a bad day, I need 3-4 Word docs, a couple Excel files, a couple PDFs, a couple browser windows open at all times and must constantly cross reference everything for hours at a time. iOS just can't do that. I'm not talking about the simple clip here, swipe, paste there stuff. I'm talking perfectly matching accounting and document formatting along with nuanced, finalized wording for $$$ proposals or make-or-break customer interactions. iOS just can't cut it for me. I've gotten to the point where I won't even finalize anything on a laptop if I dont have to. I need my home setup to make sure i'm not missing something.

Long diatribe there but if you move toward the more professional (in the classic sense of the term, not the modern/everyone calls themselves a pro sense) use case and already have an external monitor plus peripherals the MacMini is a relatively cheap way to work in the Apple ecosystem from your 'battlestation'. From there it's just a question of how you want to work while traveling.
 
I don’t have time to write a roman, but my late-2013 MBP 15 is completely over. I bought an iPad Pro 12.9 as a laptop replacement. Couldn’t be happier. it does everything I want even faster except coding. I didn’t find a good code editor yet.

Planning to get a Mac mini M1 as desktop. No more swollen battery. I still have my job laptop PC (Elitebook, hew...)

If your use case can be done entirely on an iPad, I’d say go for it.
 
Hey bwb, sorry for my delayed response, I'm not even sure if it's relevant anymore but here are a few thoughts/items from my perspective.

I started my journey about 10 years ago with a simple MacBook Air and an external monitor at home. I used the MBA 'on the go' and when I was home I would plug it into the external monitor for dual screens. Once I realized how much more productive I could be that way I began slowly buying my into the multiple-computer, multiple-monitor ecosystem. Some people have 'normal' use cases and others have unique use cases so at the end of the day everyone's set up just has to work for them. After a while I began to realize that my computer was my most important 'tool'. Meaning, it is the single device that enables me to live my life. It's how I work, communicate, play, etc. more than just about anything else. I easily spend 8 hours per day in front of a computer and some days more like 12 hours. So I began spending more and more money on computer setups. I also eventually decided that things that were meant to work together were better for me. While I enjoy tinkering now and then, work became more important and I needed things that were designed to work together and that wouldn't be 'broken' by one manufacturer's update or require constant adjustments by me when an OS or firmware updated. I was in the Apple ecosystem so I went down the Apple rabbit hole and it has worked well for me. I do pay the 'Apple tax' but it's worth it for my use case.

I solely used a 13" MBP for a couple of years. It was my travel computer and my 'desktop'. When home I would plug it into what eventually became a multi-external-monitor setup. I got to the point where I believed an external GPU was worth it and bought into the BlackMagic eGPU as well - my 2016 MBP was driving the internal monitor, an external LG ultra wide (QHD) and an LG5K Ultrafine and the BMeGPU seemed to take the load off the internal GPU. People can talk technical details all day long but my individual experience is that the eGPU helped drive all those external pixels and reduced the strain on the MBP.

My 2016 MBP began to get a little long in the tooth (it's 4 yrs old now) and I also got to the point where I disliked removing it from my home setup every time I need to run somewhere so I began looking into a replacement. I already had keyboard, mouse and external monitors (plus eGPU) so the Mac mini made a lot of sense. I was exactly who Apple is targeting with the MacMini, I already had everything I just needed a computer refresh/upgrade without breaking the bank. Also, because I already had the MBP I cold just let that sit on a shelf and grab-and-go when needed. The MacMini ended up being a relatively cheap way to have a 'desktop' setup and 'travel' setup that worked for me. Once COVID hit and everything moved to video-calls I havent used my MBP much at all. It basically sits there 90% of the time.

Separately, I bought a iPad for...well fun. Kids use it, wife uses it, it's ok for occasional very short trips around town, but it just can't replicate the work I need done from a business perspective. I must use very traditional apps for my work - Microsoft Office suite, Adobe PDF suite, chat, mail, calendar, etc. - but not in a light consumer way. I'm probably more akin to an a power user of those and I routinely need multiple spreadsheets, PDFs, research tabs/browsers, and chat/email open at all times. On a bad day, I need 3-4 Word docs, a couple Excel files, a couple PDFs, a couple browser windows open at all times and must constantly cross reference everything for hours at a time. iOS just can't do that. I'm not talking about the simple clip here, swipe, paste there stuff. I'm talking perfectly matching accounting and document formatting along with nuanced, finalized wording for $$$ proposals or make-or-break customer interactions. iOS just can't cut it for me. I've gotten to the point where I won't even finalize anything on a laptop if I dont have to. I need my home setup to make sure i'm not missing something.

Long diatribe there but if you move toward the more professional (in the classic sense of the term, not the modern/everyone calls themselves a pro sense) use case and already have an external monitor plus peripherals the MacMini is a relatively cheap way to work in the Apple ecosystem from your 'battlestation'. From there it's just a question of how you want to work while traveling.

Hey thanks! Over the past month or so of testing, I decided not to go with the M1 MM: 1) Too many bugs with the MM M1 + external peripherals (11.1 helped some with washed out colors on my LG, but still attributing wrong resolutions, bluetooth issues, etc.); 2) Despite having a 4K LG + webcam, I still ended up missing an ambient light sensor, and M1 doesn't support sending I2C commands to the LG for brightness control; 3) I need 2TB internal to fully backup all iCloud files, which my 27" iMac has with the fusion drive, but didn't want to spend +$800 on the first rev of M1 products to get that in the MM; 4) 8GB RAM encountered yellow-red memory pressure in activity monitor frequently, with my typical desktop usage.

Long story short, I decided as a first step to go with the M1 MBA base model since most of the gains on M1 come with that, and in a laptop I'm comfortable with the 8GB and smaller storage drive limitations. I'm hoping once they launch new iMac models, most of the peripheral issues will be sorted out and I can spring for the 2TB SSD model. In other words, I'm moving over to a 2x MacOS and 2x iOS/iPadOS ecosystem: 27" iMac + 13" MBA + iPad Air/Pro (~2 years old 10.5" right now, but battery is starting to get long in the tooth.. waiting to see what the Pro models will bring, but probably will spring for an Air at some point) + iPhone.

The experiment with solely working on the Mac mini for a couple weeks was good; I primarily used VMWare Horizon to Remote Desktop into a VM work machine, which generally worked well-- most limitations seemed to be on VM slushshness and not my connection. If I need a fallback, I can always switch to my work laptop, but I haven't had to do that over the past month. For reference, this is all professional usage but most of my actual work is done remote: I'm in electrical engineering research at a Fortune 500 and most actual workloads are on Linux servers + lots of PowerPoint/Word/LaTeX, Slack, etc.. locally to write up results. Outside of work I do some creative work as a hobby for some local campaigns, so I tend to have quite a few different things open at any given time.
 
Too many bugs with the MM M1 + external peripherals (11.1 helped some with washed out colors on my LG, but still attributing wrong resolutions, bluetooth issues, etc.)
Bluetooth issue is very sporadic. You see issues because people having one actually writes it, while people having no issues just don’t say anything.
3) I need 2TB internal to fully backup all iCloud files, which my 27" iMac has with the fusion drive, but didn't want to spend +$800 on the first rev of M1 products to get that in the MM;
You don’t need to have the same on-site capacity as iCloud (from my experience). iCloud can dynamically download what is required and erase on-site data when not accessed for a long period of time.
8GB RAM encountered yellow-red memory pressure in activity monitor frequently, with my typical desktop usage.
You’d be better with 1TB instead of 2TB (or even 512GB) and 16 GB RAM.
Long story short, I decided as a first step to go with the M1 MBA base model since most of the gains on M1 come with that, and in a laptop I'm comfortable with the 8GB and smaller storage drive limitations.
Last statement is weird IMO. For laptop, if portability is required, then fine, but it shouldn’t have lesser specs than a Mini because it’s a laptop, when both computers have basically the same internals.
I'm moving over to a 2x MacOS and 2x iOS/iPadOS ecosystem: 27" iMac + 13" MBA + iPad Air/Pro
Too many devices IMO. You’ll end up using one more than the others (two counting the iPad). That’s what happened with me. I reconditioned my desktop into a server because I was using exclusively my MacBook Pro. Usually the laptop is the most used device, followed by iPad, and desktop is last. The laptop can always be docked to an external display, making itself a « desktop », making the iMac useless (or almost useless).
 
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Bluetooth issue is very sporadic. You see issues because people having one actually writes it, while people having no issues just don’t say anything.

You don’t need to have the same on-site capacity as iCloud (from my experience). iCloud can dynamically download what is required and erase on-site data when not accessed for a long period of time.

You’d be better with 1TB instead of 2TB (or even 512GB) and 16 GB RAM.

Last statement is weird IMO. For laptop, if portability is required, then fine, but it shouldn’t have lesser specs than a Mini because it’s a laptop, when both computers have basically the same internals.

Too many devices IMO. You’ll end up using one more than the others (two counting the iPad). That’s what happened with me. I reconditioned my desktop into a server because I was using exclusively my MacBook Pro. Usually the laptop is the most used device, followed by iPad, and desktop is last. The laptop can always be docked to an external display, making itself a « desktop », making the iMac useless (or almost useless).

Thanks for the input-- but bull on the BT issues. I'm speaking from experience on the bluetooth. I can replicate bluetooth issues on both the MM and MBA. Of course, iCloud has dynamic downloading but that doesn't solve the need for more storage for backups. On the laptop side, I'm absolutely using the dynamic downloading.

Regarding, too many devices.. this is effectively the setup I've already been using for years, just I decided to stay with the iMac (to be replaced with an M1 iMac later, rather than replace with the MM) and switch out the laptop from a Lenovo work-issued one to the MBA.

> Last statement is weird IMO. For laptop, if portability is required, then fine, but it shouldn’t have lesser specs than a Mini because it’s a laptop, when both computers have basically the same internals.

Not the same specs. Dual 27" on a desktop I tend to do quite a bit of parallel work, where I'm much less likely to do so on a 13" display... unless of course I'm plugging it in. But then plugging in as a docked desktop replacement exposes more peripheral issues (no I2C for monitor brightness control, more external mouse dependent so bluetooth issues are aggravating, issues with LG monitors, etc).

Put another way: Spec-wise I need a 2TB/16GB, and even then a Mac mini would be a compromise because of the amount of external peripheral bugs. As a dedicated cheap, base-model, laptop machine I'm much more willing to compromise and wait out the limitations/bugs right now. And moving around the house with a macOS device is much appreciated when I'm WFH and tied to the desktop every M-F.
 
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I'm speaking from experience on the bluetooth.
I’m interested into your reproduction conditions because I have never experienced any Bluetooth issue with my macs (still don’t have the M1 Mini).


I still don’t understand why one should tolerate more compromises out of a laptop than another machine ... your reasoning is a bit weird to me 😂. But you seems convinced so that’s fine.


no I2C for monitor brightness control
This is really fancy tho....
 
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I’m interested into your reproduction conditions because I have never experienced any Bluetooth issue with my macs (still don’t have the M1 Mini).


I still don’t understand why one should tolerate more compromises out of a laptop than another machine ... your reasoning is a bit weird to me 😂. But you seems convinced so that’s fine.



This is really fancy tho....

Reproduce: Any Apple-made bluetooth headphones (AirPods, Beats Solo 3's, etc) listening to music + Logitech mouse, and mouse will pretty noticeably skip (constant, every second). Without music streaming it skips significantly less. It's still usable, but not pleasant. On my iMac with music, skipping is far less noticeable (though not completely removed). Apple-made Magic Mouse or trackpad doesn't have skipping issues, but does completely disconnect at intervals (every 30 minutes?) on M1 specifically, so some gremlins with the bluetooth stack beyond just first- vs third-party device support.

Workload and use case is different on laptop vs desktop. That shouldn't be weird reasoning: you don't use a car the same way you use a truck.
 
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Reproduce: Any Apple-made bluetooth headphones (AirPods, Beats Solo 3's, etc) listening to music + Logitech mouse, and mouse will pretty noticeably skip (constant, every second). Without music streaming it skips significantly less. It's still usable, but not pleasant. On my iMac with music, skipping is far less noticeable (though not completely removed). Apple-made Magic Mouse or trackpad doesn't have skipping issues, but does completely disconnect at intervals (every 30 minutes?) on M1 specifically, so some gremlins with the bluetooth stack beyond just first- vs third-party device support.
Thanks. And do you have any USB Type A peripherals plugged in? I read it might have something to do with it ... not sure.


Workload and use case is different on laptop vs desktop. That shouldn't be weird reasoning: you don't use a car the same way you use a truck.
I always used my MacBook Pro as a desktop. I always used only one computer because I find it’s way more simple to use even with iCloud and every syncing thing we have today. So I might be biaised toward this idea. I find it’s a lot more economical in time and money to have one machine, docked, with 2 monitors, than one desktop plus one laptop and being stuck with syncing everything... might be biased because I’m software engineer too and moving environment isn’t that easy sometimes.
 
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Thanks. And do you have any USB Type A peripherals plugged in? I read it might have something to do with it ... not sure.



I always used my MacBook Pro as a desktop. I always used only one computer because I find it’s way more simple to use even with iCloud and every syncing thing we have today. So I might be biaised toward this idea. I find it’s a lot more economical in time and money to have one machine, docked, with 2 monitors, than one desktop plus one laptop and being stuck with syncing everything... might be biased because I’m software engineer too and moving environment isn’t that easy sometimes.

I've tried a lot of conditions. USB can certainly interfere, but at the end of the day it really should be usable with all peripherals attached. With Logitech dedicated wireless dongles I use extenders.

Unfortunately, M1 MacBooks don't support dual external monitors, so the MacBook + 2x 27" monitors won't work.
 
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Unfortunately, M1 MacBooks don't support dual external monitors, so the MacBook + 2x 27" monitors won't work.
True. That’s bad :( That’s why if I would still need a laptop I’d wait for higher end Pro on M1X. But I bought the iPad Pro 12.9 for everything on the go and it does the job even better than a laptop to my personal taste. That’s why I’ll be opting for Mac Mini as a desktop. It’s not that powerful but it’s certainly enough for what I do now. I run computations on a server.

That’s why I’m not sure about your MBA. Make sure you really need it because you already have a giant powerful desktop with dual screen setup and an iPad Pro... maybe you can adapt your workflow and save money.
 
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