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Odan

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I had a really good experience with an intel Mac mini and an intel iMac however the M1 Mac mini is a massive downgrade for me. On pretty much every startup now the M1 mini doesn't connect to my Apple Magic Trackpad... so I have to connect a cable so the Mac connects to it even though they are paired via bluetooth. To be fair, this bluetooth problem existed early on and apple support found no issue remotely so it was never seen as a defective device... sometimes the apple keyboard typing signal becomes so delayed that it repeats a letter like 20 times so I have to restart it. I bought new Apple peripherals and ended up returning them because they had the same problem so the issue is with the Mac and not the keyboard and trackpad.

Aside from the bluetooth problems which I gather others have experienced as well, the M1 behaviour with external hard drives is also a massive downgrade from intel Macs. On startup, if you have an external HDD for time capsule, it'll take 10x longer to load the OS, why??? Why does the Mac need to read time capsule drives before even loading my user environment? I don't feel like disconnecting and reconnecting the HDD every time. The Mac should just ignore the external HDD and hurry up and load the OS. For all the marketing and hype of M1 being better than Intel, my experience is the exact opposite and every time I use the intel iMac it's much faster and snappier and never had any connectivity issues whatsoever.

Then there's the graphics performance which is also very weak for actual Steam games (not the low end 2D stuff people play from the App Store), but that's probably asking too much so I just run an Ubuntu rig for games which performs much better with 6 year old hardware in it.

I'm still an Apple fan but the M1 is the worst Mac I ever had in over 20 years of using various Macs... I won't be buying another mini or those taller towers they make, the bluetooth seems too iffy and I ain't risking several thousand more on high spec machines just to have cables all over my desk all the time. Support was really poor as well, a lot of time wasted and they even told me it's a known issue with the M1 mini and somehow software updates would resolve it, but a year later and it's not solved. Probably will only buy laptops from now on or something, that way there's no concern about being able to type or click using apple's own peripherals.
 
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Bluetooth has ALWAYS been a "weak signal" radio technology and it will never "get better".

It works, sometimes, usually, but [speaking only for myself] I'd never rely on it, and I don't use it... at all.

It's always been problematic on the Mini because of the aluminum case, which I sense "gets in the way" of the in/out radio signals.

If you depend on BT, I'd suggest you try a USB bluetooth "dongle" and see if that works any better (since the electronics are now "out of" the Mini enclosure).
 
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Bluetooth has ALWAYS been a "weak signal" radio technology and it will never "get better".

It works, sometimes, usually, but [speaking only for myself] I'd never rely on it, and I don't use it... at all.

It's always been problematic on the Mini because of the aluminum case, which I sense "gets in the way" of the in/out radio signals.

If you depend on BT, I'd suggest you try a USB bluetooth "dongle" and see if that works any better (since the electronics are now "out of" the Mini enclosure).
I solved the problem using a KVM (Synergy instead of Universal Control, which I thought was perfect but these problems cannot be solved). I also raised the Mac mini, which helped, but it's still awful.
 
I know it's been a while and this is an old topic, but Apple did replace my whole logic board even out of warranty (very kind of them, always great service). The issue persists but mainly when I transfer files over ethernet (wifi is off). Anyway, it may have to do with the old M1 mini enclosure and layout. I'll probably get a M5 mini or something eventually. Apple did the right thing but maybe not much can be done about it given that it's a design issue.
 
I think, it’s simply the compact size of the mini that makes the situation more prone, obvious. But the technology limits are universal.

Regarding Bluetooth:
Additionally, a high volume of Bluetooth devices operating in close proximity can lead to interference and signal degradation.
I’ve witnessed the USB problem and my current setup can succumb to the quoted situation/scenario. Specifically, I have a BT speaker beneath my monitor. When I do use the BT speaker, the audio is nearly garbled by the keyboard connection. So, either I temporarily turn off my Magic Keyboard or it can mostly clear up if I stop using the keyboard, which, of course, reduces the communication between it and the Mac (i.e., reduce interference).

Basically, electronic/tech devices definitely don’t always play nice (despite the design attempts).
 
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